the offensive woes for the jets run deep. the o-line is beat up and not working. we don't have a decent WR outside of GW, and our OC is awful. compile that with a bad QB and we see the results. I can't understand putting a statue QB with not much of an arm in that situation. at least with zach you can get a little backyard football here and there and maybe a play and if our OC wasn't so awful and stubborn, he'd put him in positions to do that. The big issue we've had (and as much as I liked MLF he had this issue too) is the OCs we hire force players to work in their system instead of tailoring it to the players they have. if you look at the ravens or ried they do the opposite. the ravnes changed their whole offense mid season when flacco got hurt and lamaar came in as a rookie. Ried ran a perfect system for mcnabb and the RBs (westbrok/mccoy) and the lack of WRs. then ran a perfect system for smith and his tools (brains over physical tools) then a perfect one for mahomes. We need a more flexible OC. as far as reich goes, thats probably a bad move on their part. panthers have been pretty inept and the offense looked much better under dalton that 1 game. young is still young but doesn't look good so far and I don't think it's reich. They even had a player complain that young adubiled out of a play that would have worked better into one that failed.
I could not agree more! I am SO sick of our OC’s forcing their system on the team with like NO regard to the talent on hand. This has been our issue forever. We’ve not hired ONE SINGLE great coach that says hey, let me look at the talent and devise a system that maximizes them? It’s the same on D, honestly. How many times did we go from a 3-4 D to a 4-3 D and have to change out D talent with every new HC? It’s so frustrating. I hated the Hacket hire as soon as it was announced just as much as I hated the Gase hire. To me, it’s so clear that both guys were along for the ride of their HOF QBs…Peyton made Gase, and AR made Hacket…not the other way around. And sure I know Hacket had that one good year in Jacksonville with Bortles but that was it…and that was ancient history in the NFL anyway. But yeah, it would be SO nice to finally get an offensive HC or at least a great OC who could develop a young QB and be creative with the playcalling. Those guys don’t last long at OC for reasons that everyone in the NFL EXCEPT the Jets know…we keep rolling with defensive HCs
sadly already won too many games and might yet get another win to have any chance of a top 3 pick or even top 5 probably
I would never want to hire a HC or an OC that had a top 5 QB on their roster because you can be damned certain that they won't be anything like as successful without that player to carry them - give me someone that can make something happen with a bad QB even if they never get close to having as many wins - its like with Saleh, of course the Niners D was great under him as it was stacked with great players but it has actually performed even better since he left!
I Didn't hate the hackett hire because it came with rodgers and rodgers had his 2 best years under hackett with back to back MVPs. the issue is we dont' have a QB that can do that in his system. hell even russell wilson looked awful in it and now is playing well under sean peyton. If russell wilson couldn't run this offense, what chance does zach, boyle, or simian have? rodgers is the rare type of QB that can make any system work. probably just him, mahomes, and allen right now. I'm sure stroud will be on that list soon too.
andy ried has pretty much always had a top QB outside 1 year with alex smith so it really just comes down to the person.
this is what I am saying - people call Andy Reid a genius but he has always had a good QB to work with - the only team to achieve consistent success without a top tier QB was the Ravens with Flacco which is why we need to not look at successful teams but teams which are doing better than you might expect given the level of talent on board because you could bring Reid to the Jets and he'd do better than what we curently have but I doubt he would be winning anything until we fix the QB position (which feels like it will never happen)
With Breece and Wilson, I don't blame them, they are making business decisions not to take hits. It's obbvious.
Don't worry, the next set of loser coaches we hire will do everything differently. They won't be exactly the same as the last several sets of loser coaches we've hired and fired and hired and fired.
flacco was one of those borderline top 10 QBs every year though and he stayed healthy. alot like a cousins or eli type. he was far from bad. jackson is a stud. the steelers are still winning without a QB. goes to show how good a coach tomlin is. and he's a defensive guy. Bill B has not won since brady retired because no QB and lack of team talent (his own fault since he's the GM but still)
