I do think we should give Kellen, Ratliff and Ainge a chance. We just might have a franchise QB on the bench. As insurance I would pick up Josh Freeman with the #17 pick. At 6'6" 250 and a strong arm he should be able to deal with the Medowland winds.
Aren't you the one assuming Clemens and Ratliff can't being our starting QB and aren't you the one thinking you know better than our coaching staff when Rex himself has said finding a new QB is not going to be a big priority for him???
So you're saying that because Rex has sidestepped questions on the QB issue and has led everyone to believe that Clemens/Ratliff will be starting in 09 that means that is set in stone to happen? Are you saying that you actually believe Ryan would tip his hand this early in the offseason? Have you ever heard of the phrase "smoke and mirrors", and more importantly, do you know anything about football?
He didn't sidestep it. He stated that they will play great defense and run the ball. He said he wasn't looking to bring anyone in. Where is the sidestepping? Do you know what sidestepping even means? :lol: If you're saying he's trying to throw off other teams, give me a break. 75% of the draft 'experts' have us taking a QB in the 1st round. Who do you think he's fooling? And nothing is set in stone. If Peyton Manning gets cut and will sign for cheap, I'm sure Rex and Tanny will look into it. But I am saying that Rex made it clear that QB is not the most important need for this team and his style of football. We're not gonna take one in the 1st round, let alone trade up in the 1st to get one. Yes, I do know football. Obviously you don't.
We don't have a proven QB, we don't have a #1 receiver and we definitely need another RB to put in the kind of offense Ryan wants to run. The real question is what will they go after at #17 (they won't trade up I don't think) and what will they still try to get in FA. My guess is they get a RB or WR in the first round and a QB in the second. None in FA.
How did Clemens get a fair shot? Favre was brought in before the start of the first preseason game, and Clemens got no help from his receivers in the Redskins game.
This guy makes stuff up along the way to support whatever idiotic opinion he happnes to have on a daily (and changable) basis. Rex hasn't sidestepped a pile of shit yet. You just don't like what he says, so you ignore it. Keep this up and you will certainly get some nominations in next year's poster awards.
thank god for this post...some people actually have sense on this board. Im sick of these impulsive ideas of trading up for sanchez, and cutler this and......byron leftwich???? HA! I cant take anyone serious if you really want byron letwich as our quaterback. Lets stay young and look for a future here.
Uhh, yes. Win the job either in 2007 and don't look so fuggin' lost against the REALLY awful Chiefs the last game of the season, or do something in the 2008 TC, the 3rd one you've been apart of to quiet all doubters. I didn't say anything about the round so throw that shit outta here. Running teams don't run 3 straight downs 10 straight plays for scoring drives. Great so 31 year old Thomas Jones is the corner stone of the offense. My point, is to open all the avenues to finding the best option at QB, instead of being wall-flowers at the dance for 40 years. You have to give yourself an opportunity, instead of saying well Clemens sucked but has this excuse, or Ratliff looked good on those two throws I remember to Clowney. Or, if we suck hopefully we'll be picking in the top 5 to nab McCoy or someone. I'm not being Sanchez's agent, I'm being a thinking logical member of the Jets fanbase when I say the quarterback position is looking pretty awful right now.
the jets have the perfect situation at the qb position.a guy they drafted with 4 yrs in the system- with the same o coordinator.not only that, he was trained by 2 outstanding qb's.one known for his accuracy, poise and quick decisions.the other for raw power and excitment.i thiink the thing that is most intreaging about the guy is his quick release and touch on the long ball.with the way this offense can run the ball and leon getting more touchs this yr, i think clemens will have an opportunity to make some plays.
well said! Kellen did well on a team with a very poor OL and no run game to speak of. His #1 receiver sucked due to lack of speed and a staff that was easy to read! Why won't these "JETS" fans give the guy a fair shot to show what he has with a better OL and excellent run game? It is sickening to say the truth!
I'm in agreement as long as the team doesn't bring in some old stop gap for a few years. I'd rather suffer with Clemens or Ratliff and get a shot at a good QB next year (assuming those guys can't carry the team), then watch some mediocre washed up old guy take the team down. Hopefully one of the guys on the roster steps up. If not, the Jets will look at QB in the draft, especially if Sanchez falls, or they trade up to get him.
I agree with you LTJF. All I'll say in slight retort is that I'd like to see the Jets bring in a Vet to compete (or heck, maybe even garauntee opening day to either Ratliff or Clemens while bringing in a Vet to be the backup). I just think it's better for the team to have as many options as possible without putting too many eggs in any one basket. Also, I personally think Clemens still has a chance to be a very good quarterback and want to see him get a shot for another season.
Technically he did win the job. He started over Chad didn't he? For the millionth time bad OL affects QB. We've covered the importance of training camp too. Let's not forget this is a team sport. You can't blame it all on Clemens when the WRs drop balls/mis-run routes and the OL can't block. You were talking about getting Sanchez and comparing him to Cassell. Sanchez's not gonna drop outta the first round. Cassel got picked up with a late pick. Get YOUR shit straight! :wink: Wow, really running teams don't run on EVERY play? What a surprise. I bet there were hundreds of posters that just learned something new. :smile: Why do people state the obvious, throw in a curse word and then think they made any sort of valid argument??? You spend a 1st rounder on QB if your system requires a stud QB. If your system requires a caretaker at QB, then you don't need to spend your most important resource on it. Build the D, get the running game going strong first, then you take shots at a QB a little later. That's why I listed the rounds those QB's were drafted in.... That last paragraph says nothing. I want the team to do well too. WOW, what a shocker. :grin: The only real disagreement we have is how to do it. I don't think we've seen enough of Clemens to actually make a judgment on him, for all those reasons stated a hundred times in this and other threads. I rather roll the dice on Clemens or Ratliff this year and see what they can do while building the D and running game, rather then spending the that 1st rounder on another unknown, like Sanchez and not spending that pick on other areas we need to work on.
Clemens is our man for the gamestyle we are going with IMO....there is no need to bring in a great QB we wont utilize...its a waste of cap space....clemens will be serviceable...i have faith given time in the pocket he will be a much better QB then in 07....he can also scramble and throw on the run.... have faith in Clemens he will surpass most expectations...personally i feel like he will have not a great season but a solid season...
