Steer Clear of Revis Island - ESPN

abyzmul · Dec 3, 2009

PinPointPenning10 said: ↑

Yeah, I think he was on Holt most of that game.
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The Jets switched Revis to Sims-Walker in the second half. He was on Holt for most of the first half though.

LeonNYJ · Dec 3, 2009

Lito Sheppard was covering Sims-Walker when he scored the TD (which I was very upset about). You'd think Rex would have realized how MSW had been playing and put Revis on him.

brothermoose · Dec 3, 2009

sec314 said: ↑

No cross please, that's sickening
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paging dr. Jetophile...

StreetFighterJet · Dec 3, 2009

Good ESPN article on Revis

I know, we're all aware he is a bad ass, but its always nice to read about it, especially with some fantasy number breakdowns and such:

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football/ffl/story?id=4707319

If you made a list of the most important players in fantasy football this season, you could name Aaron Rodgers, Chris Johnson and Reggie Wayne and countless other fantasy studs, and no one would argue the point. But what if we told you that one of the most important players didn't have a passing attempt, carry or reception all season? Crazy? Meet New York Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis.

In the first season under head coach Rex Ryan, the Jets currently rank second in the NFL in total defense. One of the core tenets of their scheme this season has Revis shadowing the opposing team's best wide receiver all over the field in man-to-man coverage, in what's become known as Revis Island. That may seem obvious, but for all the hype about "shutdown cornerbacks," the majority of teams don't deploy their best corner the way the Jets do. Most keep their corners on a preferred side of the field or otherwise adapt to their existing scheme. In recent matchups against the New England Patriots and Carolina Panthers, not only has Revis switched sides of the field to match up with Randy Moss and Steve Smith, he's even lined up in the slot just to stick with them.

While some astute fantasy owners may consider cornerback matchups before setting their lineups, it's rarely a deal breaker. But in Revis' case, it just might be. The chart below shows the top receivers Revis and the Jets have faced this year, along with their production, fantasy points scored, average fantasy points (in all other games not against the Jets), and the difference between what they did against Revis and the average. Note that we've intentionally excluded games against the Tennessee Titans, Miami Dolphins and Oakland Raiders, because no receivers from those teams were started by a substantial number of fantasy owners. Miami's Ted Ginn Jr. actually beat Revis for a long touchdown (the only big play Revis has given up all year), but had scored just two points in the previous two games and was started in fewer than 10 percent of fantasy leagues.

WEEK OPP PLAYER STATS Fant Pts 2009 Avg Pts Below Season Avg
1 HOU Andre Johnson 4-35 3 11.8 8.8
2 NE Randy Moss 4-24 2 14.6 12.6
4 NO Marques Colston 2-33 3 11.3 8.3
6 BUF Terrell Owens 3-13 1 8.7 7.7
10 JAX Mike Sims-Walker 3-49-1 10 10.4 0.4
11 NE Randy Moss 5-34-1 9 14.6 5.6
12 CAR Steve Smith 1-5 0 8.2 8.2
Total 22-193-2 28 79.6 51.6

Take a look at the far right column again. The numbers are pretty jarring. In seven games, those six wide receivers have collectively been held to an average of 7.4 fewer points versus the Jets than in all other games. Think about that number. In ESPN.com standard scoring, it represents 70 yards, or a touchdown and then some. Fewer than 30 wide receivers are even averaging 7.4 fantasy points per game, yet that's what the top guys are leaving on the table against Revis and the Jets.

How much credit should Revis get versus the collective Jets defense, or other factors? That's impossible to say conclusively, but we enlisted the aid of ESPN Insider K.C. Joyner, who passed along this chart, showing the specific stats generated (for all games) by No. 1 receivers on plays when they were covered by Revis.

WEEK OPP PLAYER Att Comp Yds TD Int Pen Pen Yds YPA
1 HOU Andre Johnson 2 2 24 0 0 0 0 12.0
2 NE Randy Moss 6 3 21 0 1 0 0 3.5
3 TEN Justin Gage 6 3 28 0 0 0 0 4.7
4 NO Marques Colston 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
5 MIA Ted Ginn Jr. 2 2 57 1 0 0 0 28.5
6 BUF Terrell Owens 5 1 11 0 0 1 5 2.7
7 OAK Louis Murphy 4 1 6 0 0 0 0 1.5
8 MIA Ted Ginn Jr. 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
9 BYE
10 JAX Mike Sims-Walker 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
11 NE Randy Moss 10 4 29 1 0 1 -10 1.7
12 CAR Steve Smith 4 1 5 0 1 0 0 1.3
Total 45 17 181 2 2 2 -5 3.7

Joyner adds: As expected, his numbers were absolutely lights out (3.7 YPA and only 17 completions and one defensive penalty in 47 total attempts). He is truly someone that fantasy owners don't want their guy to face, even if they are elite WRs who would be considered must starts against any matchup.

The point here isn't to crown Revis the best cornerback in the NFL. That's for others to decide. Nnamdi Asomugha can certainly stake a claim to that title. But what matters for fantasy players is direct impact on wide receivers, and Revis has had that in a way that Asomugha has not this season. Even a quick, anecdotal glance at Oakland Raiders box scores this season will show that Vincent Jackson (twice), Dwayne Bowe, Brandon Marshall, DeSean Jackson and Miles Austin have all had excellent games against them. Was Asomugha in man-to-man coverage on those guys? ESPN fantasy analyst Christopher Harris, who watches every game to prep for The Breakdown each week, weighs in:

Asomugha is rarely matched up on one guy per game. I thought he did stay with Chad Ochocinco a couple of weeks ago most of the game, but he didn't against Austin (in fact, he was rarely even on Austin), he definitely didn't in Week 8 against Vincent Jackson, he didn't in Week 6 against DeSean Jackson (Chris Johnson had Jackson most of the time), and he didn't in Week 4 against Andre Johnson (and 62 of his 66 yards came on one play against Chris Johnson).

Down the stretch, Revis and the Jets will face fantasy-relevant receivers Terrell Owens, Antonio Bryant (OK, not that relevant), Roddy White, Reggie Wayne and Chad Ochocinco. Of the five, only Wayne qualifies for "start-regardless-of-matchup" status (although that may depend on whether the Indianapolis Colts are resting guys for the playoffs). We can't say conclusively whether you should start Owens, Bryant, White or Ochocinco, but we can say this: The evidence suggests they will perform well below their usual standards. If you have viable alternatives, you need to carefully consider them. And in a season in which we've seen largely undrafted receivers like Miles Austin, Sidney Rice, Steve Smith (New York Giants) and Mike Sims-Walker emerge as top-20 wide receivers, it's highly possible you have viable alternatives, ones who won't be paying a visit to Revis Island.
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MBGreen · Dec 3, 2009

a couple hours late....and a buck short.

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Mr Electric · Dec 3, 2009

ZANGIEF FTW!

MBGreen · Dec 3, 2009

^ bahahahaha!!

pats-hater · Dec 3, 2009

Revis has now truly come into his prime. He's been top-notch for years but now he's on his way to greatness...

:jets:

Sanchez All Day · Dec 3, 2009

Revis Christ

nyjetsfan7234 · Dec 3, 2009

i posted this before in the house of revis thread but revis is so good its worth posting againg

HardHitta · Dec 3, 2009

Revis is the best corner in football

It is what it is.

nyjetsrule · Dec 17, 2009

apparently the fins have gotten word of revis island... and decided to mock the almighty. Shall our photoshoppers respond to this challenge? or will they fold and let the idiots from finhaven win?

Coach K · Dec 17, 2009

nyjetsrule said: ↑

apparently the fins have gotten word of revis island... and decided to mock the almighty. Shall our photoshoppers respond to this challenge? or will they fold and let the idiots from finhaven win?
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theyre not even worth addressing. furthermore anyone who knows football knows Rhodes blew his deep zone coverage and then tried to throw Revis under the bus via Tweet before even leaving the stadium.

furthermore, lets just look at the situation. we have the best CB in the NFL (vs Woodson its debatable no more Asamougha)

theyre depicting a player who probably wont be in the league in a few years.

also theyre pussies Id school them at Applebee's

Jake · Dec 17, 2009

Hahahahah let them chirp. I like the fact they acknowledge Revis Island, everyone knows he's all-pro.

Big Blocker · Dec 17, 2009

GreyhoundJet said: ↑

Amazing season by Revis. People should start recognizing that he is the best cornerback in the league.
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What "best in the league" comparisons based on man to man stats leave out is how critical Revis is to the set up of the Jet D. He makes it all happen by covering the other team's best receiver man to man. Yeah, he still gets safety help at times, but his play allows the rest of the D to focus on other responsibilities, strenthening the entire D. In that connection, the other team moving it's best receiver from one side to the other or even in the slot doesn't affect the Jets D in how the rest of the players are assigned responsibilities.

It's not just his individual play but how he fits in the D and what that allows the Jets to do.

Jersey Joe 67 · Dec 17, 2009

Woody better raise the price of Q-Tips cause this man has got a big payday coming his way!
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