It really blows my mind how disliked Chad is to the Jets fanbase. As much as I don't like to agree with Tony Kornheiser I think what he said about Jets fans not being happy until they have a QB that can throw an 80 yard dart is spot on.
That article says NOTHING about Chad actually playing. I do not see how it is in the best interests of Chad or the Jets for him to play. There is some truth to the fact that if Kellen were to start and do well that Chad may never play again, and that might be the impetus for him trying. But it all seems like a smokescreen to me and I expect Kellen will start at least this week.
How do you know how injured he is to to say it is not in the best interests of Chad or the Jets if he plays?
easy for you to say from the ol' couch :wink:.... yeah, putting Chad in with a bum ankle depletes his already less than stellar mobility and makes him even more of a sitting duck....while further increasing the possibility of getting sacked a bunch of time and thus making what might just be a nagging injury into a full blow serious one.... the type of injury, the opponent and all circumstances have to be analyzed.....at least in my opinion........so to me even if he can put some pressure on it, it isn't broken and he has medical clearance to go.......you don't risk him for the whole season, more important to me he gets extra time to heal and is ready for a home division game against Miami
again I will ask.. how do you know how severe his injury is? He came back in and led a TD drive after he suffered the injury.
am I allowed to have an opinion as to whether I think he should play or not, without having access to the Jets medical reports? i think my position is pretty clear it's pretty obvious to me he IS injured and it is "probably" pretty serious....enough so, that I'm sure an extra week would be beneficial to him and the team for the season... and as far as the game went, why did he then come out at the end? I believe it was something along the lines of the Pats obviously knowing they would be in passing situations and he felt he wouldn't be able to avoid the rush?
I just think he wants to play. He realizes falling in an 0-2 hole with a division opponent up next is not good. He has always given us 110%, thats never going to change. Plus, if we get rid of him, someone else will pick him up.
And "we" still won't be happy. Vinny T could throw 80 yard darts, he just couldn't hit the green jersies. Browning Nagle could throw 80 yards, but couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. O'Brian probably could have throw 80 yards, but it's hard to do that lying on your back. It's always the QB around here. How many playoff level QBs have we had in here over the years? Off the top of my head: Boomer, O'Donnell, Vinny T, O'Brian probably was, Nagle who knows. Glenn Foley was a "great" option at one point. The thing is, none of them have been more successful than Chad, with the arguable exception of Vinny T, who played in the AFC Championship for us. Considering Chad was a kneel down, and poor kick from possibly appearing in that game himself, I wonder how it is that people can beat on him so mercilessly. Here's a point I keep meaning to make, and I guess this is as good a place as any. (Though I had actually planned to make a thread about it.) People keep saying we "know the ceiling" with Chad. I hear that over and over and over. Here's my question. How many years did Peyton Manning carry his team to the playoffs, and not get to the Super Bowl? Until this past January, Manning had a ceiling too. Did Colts fans say "we need to draft a better QB"? So I'm sure the response will be "oh but his ARM". Oh but nothing. Until January 2007, Peyton Manning was known as the best QB who would probably never win a Super Bowl. Now where's his ceiling?
Surely the would not send him out there if the injury was that serious and yes the article says preparing, not starting. This is all a ploy by Mangini so the Ravens have to game plan for CP and KC. No one will know who is starting until game time.
agreed the article doesn't imply he's gpoing to play at all but i don't agree with the whole "fearing" of clemens taking over.... believe me, I'm a Chad critic at times, but he seemed to be the only one on the field Sunday with a clue, proving to me no matter what Clemens might do in a start, it's still Chad's job
The guy has guts; no doubt. I hope he plays well and doesn't geet hammered because of poor O-line play. Now that camera spying may have been put to bay; at least on us; we should be able to meet on a level field.
Is a banged up Pennington better than a healthy Clemens?? We think he has a weak arm when he's healthy. Wait until he can't plant off his back foot. Don't get me wrong - I love the fact that the guy is willing to play hurt but I don't think they should let him do it unless it will actually help the team.
Smoke and mirrors gentleman. Ravens prepare for Chad all week and then Clemens comes in. They game plan against dink and dunk, and they get Clemens instead.
Although I wish that Chad would come back faster than anyone, you can't use that he came back in as an example. He came back in 2005 against the Jaguars and led the team down the field too. Then was OUT the rest of the season.
He's obviously got a very high tolerance for pain and is also very worried about his job. If he can play at 90% he'll try to. I don't think he'll make it through the game if he does play though, the Ravens pass rush is much better than New England's even without Ray Lewis.
You can't really compare a QB that led record breaking offenses with one that has never finished in the top half of the league in scoring. I mean if you can do that it opens the door to a lot of other ridiculous comparisons, are Leinart and Alex Smith in the same boat as Chad? Cutler? What about a guy like Leftwich, or Losman? Why not draft any rookie and replace Chad with him if you're not going to take level of accomplishment into account in comparisons? It's clear that Palmer is a better QB than Chad, yet neither has had much playoff success. Chad is fine for now. But no way is he a top QB in this league like Peyton Manning is. You can certainly win easier with a better QB than Chad if you can find one. Of course, you can also lose easier if you have a worse QB than Chad, just ask whoever David Carr and Joey Harrington play for right now.
if hes going to be hobbling around out there he isnt helping anyone. I admire his balls but with his shit arm as it is, and now a bad wheel, he isnt going to do anything to beat the ravens.......but I know as Jet fans we're more concerned about the feel good moral victory. Lets see clemens
