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What is your favorite of Star Wars Movie

  1. Episode I: The Phantom Menace

    2.1%
  2. Episode II: Attack of the Clones

    1.7%
  3. Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

    13.0%
  4. Episode IV: A New Hope

    14.7%
  5. Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

    52.5%
  6. Episode VI: Return of the Jedi

    16.0%
  1. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Grand Moff Tarkin
    From Starwars.com

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    Grand Moff Tarkin was the Imperial governor of the Outland Regions, and the mastermind of the Death Star project. A brilliant and ruthless tactician, Tarkin was a loyal adherent to Emperor Palpatine's vision of the New Order. He saw the Death Star as the ultimate weapon to ensure absolute rule over the galaxy. The power of the battle station's prime weapon was enough to deter any rebellion, he reasoned. To demonstrate the Death Star's power, he destroyed the planet of Alderaan.
    Some questioned whether Tarkin's methods were merely bids to aggrandize his own status, in defiance of the Emperor's ultimate goal. The truth will never be known, for Tarkin perished aboard his creation. The Rebel Alliance dared to wage war with the Empire, and targeted a weak spot in the battle station. A proton torpedo volley fired by young Luke Skywalker sealed the station's fate. Tarkin was killed in the resulting explosion.

    Expanded Universe
    Even as a young man, Wilhuff Tarkin was a being of vision. He saw the decay inherent in the Republic all too well from his base of operations in the Outer Rim. He ascended the military and political ranks of his native Eriadu, a densely populated world in the Seswenna sector. During the waning days of the Republic, he made valuable contacts in Palpatine's senate, and in the world of corporate interests.
    When Palpatine restructured the galactic government, Tarkin was granted command of the Seswenna sector. This came on the heels of an outrage orchestrated by Tarkin on the distant world of Ghorman. Tarkin landed his vessel on a platform filled with activists protesting Imperial taxation. Rather than be reprimanded for the murder of hundreds, Tarkin was rewarded for orchestrating the Ghorman Massacre, as it later became labeled by the Rebellion.

    From the start, resistance forces fought against the New Order. They took advantage of the bureaucratic borders that separated sectors, knowing that they could elude Imperial sector forces by jumping out of their spheres of influence.

    To counter this tactic, Tarkin proposed a new organizational scheme to the Emperor. In addition to the sectors defined by astrographic and political boundaries, there'd be overlapping 'priority sectors' defined by the amount of treasonous activity therein. A single official would command these territories -- a Grand Moff -- who would oversee the allotment of resources personally. Palpatine was pleased with Tarkin's proposal, and granted Tarkin with the title and an enormous area of operations in the Outer Rim Territories.

    Another of Tarkin's visions was the so-called doctrine of fear, or the Tarkin Doctrine as it is officially known. Rather than expend the incredible amounts of resources necessary for subjugating all the worlds of the Empire, the New Order would instead make visible a single show of force that could be used to cow any treasonous activity. This mindset culminated in the creation of the Death Star, a brainchild of Tarkin realized by a cadre of advanced scientists in a secret laboratory known as Maw Installation.

    During the secrecy surrounding Maw Installation, Tarkin took a mistress, a young Imperial commander named Daala. Tarkin considered the young Naval officer his protégé, and taught her the basics of military tactics. She was assigned the duty of protecting Maw Installation. No one in the upper echelons of the Empire knew of the secret laboratory, and the engineers who had fashioned the deep space installation were killed after its completion. When Tarkin died at Yavin, he took the Maw secret to the grave with him.

    Tarkin was survived by his widow, a severe woman who ran a megonite moss mining operation on Phelarion. On that planet, a solid black obelisk stands as tribute to the memory of this influential Imperial.
     
  2. DeathByJets

    DeathByJets Well-Known Member

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    I know on Star Wars sites this has been discussed ad infinitum, but since this is a non-SW site, I'll pose it here.

    Is Darth Sidious Anikan's father?

    During the scene at the "ballet" (swimming sperm-like things for the entertainment), Patpatine tells Anikan a Sith legend about creating life from Midiclorians. Since Anikan has a Midiclorian count that is off the charts and was born of "imaculate conception", it stands to reason that creating Anikan to be his eventual apprentice was all part of Sidious' plan. Also, perhaps Anikan comes to realize this just prior to saving Palpatine from Mace. This would help explain the seemingly rapid turn to the dark-side. Perhaps Anikan is acting not only to protect Padme, but also protect his "father".

    DbJ
     
  3. AlioTheFool

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    Quite simply the best movie ever is A New Hope, as far as I am concerned. Whenever I watch a movie with special effects, I always compare it to the Death Star scene in ANH. My wife hates when I do that.

    The only other movie I feel had the same impact as ANH to Hollywood is the original Matrix. Both movies broke totally new ground. Star Wars (the original) was something far and beyond what anyone else had done previously. It set a new standard in film making and special effects design. The Matrix was filmed in a way that it would quickly become the movie that "made" it for DVDs.

    Sure, Empire was a great film. The story was better, the scenery and all was A+, but it doesn't touch what ANH was when it was released.

    When I first saw Revenge, the first thing I said to my wife was "Oh my God, I think I just found the movie that beats the original Star Wars." She had to carry her jaw all the way back to the car. I was in shock for days afterward.

    Then I saw it again. That's when the piss-poor "romance" scenes killed me. I was in a state of shock the first time watching a visual masterpiece, and I ignored it. That didn't happen twice. I do think Christensen was a good Anikin in RotS, but that doesn't change the fact that the script was crappy.

    But the ending, when you see Vader, and you hear JAMES EARL JONES, was GREAT.

    As for Episodes "I & II" those were two of the most horrible pictures ever committed to celluloid. Sure, Darth Maul was awesome. The rescue scene in Clones was super cool, but jeez. What a total shitstorm. And Jar Jar deserves a lightsabre right up the arse. (For some reason, my wife loves Jar Jar. Mesah says he suckies!)

    Honestly, I think I liked Return of the Jedi more than Empire also. So I guess my list is:

    1) A New Hope
    2) Revenge of the Sith
    3) Return of the Jedi
    4) Empire Strikes Back
    ***A long pause***
    5) Phantom Menace (Simply because the Maul fight rocked!)
    ***A longer pause***
    6) Attack of the Clones (The only SW movie I have only seen once.)

    My son is a SW junkie. He is about to turn 10, but he knows more SW trivia than I will ever know. He has spent countless hours reading books, from novels, to "scrapbooks" to books about the planets and their inhabitants. He has seen the movies dozens of times each. He even goes on StarWars.com at least once a week to see if there is any news. He draws pictures of Starfighter battles, and even writes short stories. (He is actually working on a script that he swears George Lucas will film one day. I don't have the heart to let him down.)
     
  4. AlioTheFool

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    Actually, just within the past couple of weeks, I read that this was actually a part of that scene. Palpatine explains that he was the one who manipulated the midichlorians to create Anakin in his mother's womb. It turns out he was the apprentice of the Sith Lord he tells Anakin about. From what I read, this was originally in the script, but Lucas dumped it last minute. (I don't know why, and I don't have a link, sorry.)
     
  5. Mexican Buc

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    My question. Who is the chosen one?


    Is it Anakin or Luke?
     
  6. AlioTheFool

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    AFAIK, it was left open. I don't know if there is an official answer. The only clue that I know of is when Yoda states that the prophecy may have been misinterpreted, leading me to think it would be Luke.

    However, my brother swears that it was Anakin who is the answer to the prophecy. The one in the prophecy was supposed to bring balance to the Force, which Anakin did. The Jedi had become too powerful, and by Vader cutting them down, he brought back the balance. Later, Vader destroyed Palpatine. (He has this whole theory, but I think that's the jist of it.)

    My bet is still on Luke. He was a true Jedi, and never fell to the Darkside. Who knows though? The only person who knows for sure is Lucas, and I doubt he will ever tell.
     
  7. ButtleMan

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    There is a novel out where Luke does fall to the dark side and in later books he constantly refers to it.

    I still believe that it is Luke who is the answer to the prophecy because without Luke believing that there was still some of Anakin left in Vader, Vader never would have killed Palpatine.
    Without Luke the rebels never would have attacked and then destroyed the Death Star and brought down the Empire so Vader would still be ruling with Palpatine.
     
  8. Murrell2878

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    It's Anakin. Everything that Luke did was meant to happen to get Anakin to fulfill the prophecy. Because (if my knowledge of the prophecy is correct) 1 Jedi would rise above the ranks to destroy the Sith and bring balance back to the force. Anakin does this when he kills Sidious and then dies himself because of this act.
     
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    I?m going to say no that Sidious is not Anakin?s father. A few reasons.
    1 ? It?s kind of hard to say Anakin Skywalker was redeemed by his son if he was evil to begin with. Or born by evil.
    2 ? Sidious would never have challenged him with Count Dooku. What I mean by this is he tells Anakin to kill Dooku. He wouldn?t have had to challenge him if Anakin was Sidious? son. He would have known Anakin would have gone to the darkside.

    I?m sure Lucas thought of it but because of reason #1 he realized this wouldn?t have been too successful in the story. Also, there is already one Father/Son connection in Star Wars, two would have been overkill and he came up with other connections to Luke and Anakin?s journey toward the darkside/refusal to join the darkside.
     
  10. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    Going back a couple weeks, Mace Windu is definately an elite Jedi. You really get to see nothing of him in the movies but I think it's accepted that he is the best ever with a light saber. He even invented several forms. I'd imagine that Yoda is best in terms of "using the force" but I don't think anyone could beat Mace in hand to hand combat.

    The idea of prophecy is stupid and I think its best left the way it is. That the Jedi thought that Anakin was the chosen one and this led to their downfall.
     
  11. OhioJetsFan

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    Couple of quick questions:

    1) Does anyone else who saw Star Wars in 1977 remember the words "Episode IV" at the beginning credits and hashing out what the meaning was with your friends?

    2) What could have helped Phantom been a tighter film? I think Jar-Jar's personality, if changed, would have boosted this film's standing with fans. Make him less annoying and then delete the entire pod race and the film could have been better. (Not that the pod race wasn't visually compelling, but you could have established Anakin's abilities in other ways, and a less wooden actor in better direction could have helped also.)

    The one thing about Phantom that stands out to me is that I cannot imagine any other actor than Ewen McGregor now as the young Obi-Wan. He is the bright spot of that film for me.
     
  12. statjeff22

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    I do remember that, and people wondering about it. Even after the trilogy was over I thought that if they did a prequel, it would be much earlier in time - showing how the Jedi first came into being, for example. For me, while there was a certain amount of pleasure in seeing how the various pieces foreshadow the original three movies (the Death Star under construction in the background of ROTS, for example), it was more than made up for by the fact that starting from the first minute of Phantom you knew exactly how it was all going to end. I found that very boring.
     
  13. ButtleMan

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    I remember it being in the first film as well as it was a huge topic for discussion.
    What were ep 1-3 about???

    The one thing that I think was the problem with both sp 1 & 2 is that Lucas wanted to tell a specific story but he also had to hav elements that would tie them to ep 4-6.
    I really think that you could of had 3 movies of Anakian going to the dark side with ep 3 ending just the way it did.
     
  14. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    agreed. the character development of anakin in the first 2 movies can be summed up by saving he loved his mother and he killed some sand people.
     
  15. OhioJetsFan

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    Yep... would've been great to see the Sith storyline, and more specifically Darth Maul, expanded.
     
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    I didnt like the whole immaculate conception explanation for Anakin.
    It was just too easy of a way out.
    I actually think it would have been better if Anakin was a smaller role in the first movie than what he was.
    Too much coincidence. They just happen to land by his town with ship repairs and he is just so nice and knows where things are??? They check his mitichlorines just to check???
     
  17. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    the first two movies were a bad idea period. i think most people say phantom menace is the worst because there was so much hype leading up to it and it was a disappointment. but as others have noted there were still a few cool scenes and memorable moments.

    i can't even remember what the hell happened in attack of the clones, i know anakin went on a picnic and to some droid factory and that's about it. the rest is just a blank. imo that movie sucked much harder then the first.
     
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    Anakin whines about missing his mother.
    Anakin whines about his mother getting taken as a prisoner.
    Anakin kills sand people.
    Anakin whines about his mother dying.

    that was most of it. :smile:

    the Obi Wan -Jango Fett fight was awesome though as was the Yoda-Dooku fight.
     
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