Source: Jets to tag David Harris

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  1. inSANITy

    inSANITy Banned

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    So again, why are we going to franchise tag Harris? The only argument was that we cannot give him a long term contract because we do not know what the Salary Cap etc will be like next year. This isn't an argument because we aren't going to franchise tag Harris without knowing what all the terms to this Agreement are.

    Sooo for the second time:

    I really do not understand why we would franchise Harris.

    Usually when you franchise someone it is due to assortment of things.

    1. You are unsure of if he's recent 1 year of great play was a fluke. (not the case)
    2. You think the player was just playing hard for the big contract. (not the case)
    3. He is a health risk and you do not want to assign a long contract to him (not the case)
    4. You want to sign and trade the player.
    5. You can not agree on a long term contract.

    I don't understand why we just do not give him a large contract. I understand we can't resign him until we know the logistics and terms of the new Agreement, but why not apply this tag to a player we are unsure about. Or like others have posted, a player we would like to trade/get some value for rather than letting him hit the FA market.
     
  2. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I think the 30% rule prevents them from signing him to a normal contract. The only way they can secure him now is to franchise him. The only other option is to let him hit FA.
     
  3. inSANITy

    inSANITy Banned

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    Doesn't the 30% rule only apply when their is no players agreement in place? I have a hard time believing any team is going to resign/franchise a player until there is an exact deal in place. Meaning there wont be any 30% rule.
     
  4. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    My understanding is that as of right now if you want to sign a pending FA, the 30% rule is in effect. If you wait for the new CBA, they will all be FA's and able to deal with anyone.
     
  5. brothermoose

    brothermoose Well-Known Member

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    Correct on the 30% rule:

    AFA free agency, we don't know what the new FA rules will be. My understanding was that the 5 year guys would still be RFA until/unless a new agreement takes place, but I could be wrong.


    edit: Yeah, it's five years of service to be a free agent in an uncapped year. I knew one of our guys would be an RFA after the season, and that man is David Harris. Should a new agreement not occur, he is still ours...or we will be well compensated. Would love to lose him for a first rounder.


     
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  6. inSANITy

    inSANITy Banned

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    Right

    So the argument of
    "We are franchising him because we can't offer him a long term contract"

    is basically void because no one is going to franchise a player when there is no player/owner agreement in place.

    Soooooo the Logical reason of why this is a good idea and why people are for it, instead of actually signing him to a long term deal.
     
  7. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I've been drinking, I'm not sure if that's why I don't understand what you're saying.
     
  8. ace_o_spades

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    Yeah I'm not all that sure what's going here either
     
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    @AdamSchefter: Another expected franchise move is official: Jets placed franchise tag on LB David Harris. More coming on Sportscenter.

    it's been done.
     
  10. franzman9

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    It's offical, we tagged him. Via Adam schefter
     
  11. JfaulkNYJ

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    Harris Agent
    ^it seems like Harris doesnt have a dip shit agent like Revis judging by this quote
    "I've spoken to Mike and the Jets is to lock up David long term. We will do our best to get it done; that’s the goal for all of us. But without a new CBA, that’s impossible to do"
     
  12. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    i'll never understand why anyone would rather have a 1st round draft pick instead of a proven player that is worth a first round pick.

    especially given the draftk record of our beloved franchise
     
  13. JetRizing89

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    its official now

    ill be pissed if we lose holmes because of this

    i like harris alot but i would have taken my chances with keeping him in free agency
     
  14. BK_Jetsfan

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    The first round draft record of this FO is actually good. One bust, one still unproven, but the rest gold.
     
  15. FJF

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    thats true but if you take the whole picture its a little dicey.

    now in one hand you have a pro bowl caliber player
    in the other hand you have a mid 1st round pick that's a 50/50 proposition plus a new hole in the roster.

    i just don't see how the second option makes the team better.
     
  16. MikeHoncho

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    When they reach a CBA, Harris will sign a long term deal and that 10 million dollar cap number for this year will be cut almost in half. We will not lose Holmes.
     
  17. BK_Jetsfan

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    I guess it depends on the player, and having gone back and looked at the post you were quoting when you made the observation, in this case I agree with you (although full disclosure, I'm a HUGE Harris fan and hope he's a Jet for a long time to come).
     
  18. JETSJETSJETS17

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    In Tanny We Trust.
     
  19. NDmick

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    salary, character issues. Think J. Abe

    And if you think Harris is worth a 1st in a trade, he's not. No team will trade a 1st for him.

    And you can't lump in the shit drafts with what Tanny has done. One miss and the rest being home runs is fucking amazing.
     
  20. PennyRoyal10

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    I think it's safe to say that this year's draft is incomplete at this point, so lumping it in as a home run is somewhat premature.

    I do agree with the first part though that comparing Tanny's body of work with any previous Jets GM is unfair.
     

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