Jets were hoping because he wasnt picked first he'd play his heart out to prove people wrong. Well he hasn't and a new qb is incoming.
What was obvious last night was the reason the the Jets did not throw the ball. It was not that the jets were scared of Geno throwing the ball it was that they were scared of the pass protection. Our pass protection is as bad as it can get. Yes Geno looked scared in the pocket again and had happy feet last night but he should as that is not the problem. The problem is we cannot pick up a blitz and we cannot block anyone. Rex pretty much admitted it in his presser. Last year our pass protection was just as bad if not worse. Just look at the Saints game. But Geno was a lot tougher QB and had not lost his nerve yet. But now he is mentally done. I think we would be better off Starting Simms. At least give him a chance to play in these meaningless games.
Blitz pickup is at least somewhat the quarterbacks job. Geno does not seem to be able to read the defense very well.
Exactly, blaming it just on the OLine is very biased view. Most QBs don't have awesome lines. Geno has no pocket awareness.
This is true-- BUT two things: 1) There has been a lot of funky ass designs that doesn't come from the QB. I truly don't understand why Morningweg likes to have his TEs block DEs in pass protection. Not only is it not effective - Wake destroyed our TEs last night- it takes away another threat in the passing game. How many times have we seen a pass play called where it is a designed roll out to the right with the line blocking down and the TE supposed to block down on the DE only to get manhandled and result in a sack or pressure. Those are especially damaging because with the designed rollout the QB is further back resulting in drive killing plays, sacks out of FG range, etc. 2.) It didn't get any better with Vick in there. I do think Geno Smith has a lot to learn about pocket awareness, reading the D pre-snap, etc. but in terms of pass protection we saw the same shit with Vick back there so it's likely not coming from QB calls at the line, unless Vick sucks at it too. Basically I think the problems in pass protection are coming mostly from flawed designs and poor execution by bad OLmen. I really don't think the QBs are calling a lot of audibles or making too many pass protection decisions at the line.
Our offense overall seems to lack leadership, among many other things. At least on defense, Wilkerson and Richardson and some of the LBs seem like leaders on the field. But on offense? Geno isn't going to rise up and lead. Who will? Decker? Does he need to write a "give me the damn ball" book or something?
Isn't this the second game in a row where our TEs got destroyed trying to block someone on the DLine?
I do agree in general but I would like to point out that in the few occasions that he was called on to throw a pass and had protection he was God awful, over throwing wide open receivers and demonstrating a total and absolute lack of awareness in the pocket. Having said that, there is no denying that the Jets have no clue as to what it takes to develop a young QB, or any QB for that matter, and provide him with adequate support and game planning. We did it to Sanchez, even Vick did not escape the dreadful coaching game plan, we did it to Geno who wasn't remotly read. I can only wander what in Gods name do we think will happen if we get MM or JW and put him in the hands of this dreadful leadership and CS?
Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton, there are a few guys out there starting right now that everybody passed on.
He's had a lot of starts at this point and he still looks incapable of making a quick throw when he needs too. His accuracy is really questionable also.
I'd prefer if we lose out and draft Mariota but that Tim Tebow offense we ran last night was just pathetic. At least give Geno or Vick and the WR's a chance.
Rodgers was a 1st rounder though, not everybody had passed on him. This is still a league where the top 36 picks define who will be a productive starter about 90% of the time. Tom Brady and Russell Wilson are the bookends on a 15 year period where all the Super Bowls were won either by them or by people taken in the first 36 picks of the NFL draft. Wilson establishes that it's not a 100% rule at this point but he's got a rocky road back to the show with the cap decisions that will be forced on the Seahawks over the next couple of seasons.
To add a little more depth to the conversation only 4 Super Bowls in the past 15 years were won by QBs drafted in the top 10 - Eli Manning x 2, Peyton Manning, and... Drum roll please... Trent Dilfer. Only 4 others were won by QBs drafted in the first but outside the top 10 -- Roethlesberger x 2, Flacco and Rogers. The other 7 Super Bowls, almost half, were won by QBs drafted in the second or later -- Brady x 3, Wilson, Kurt Warner, Drew Bree's and Brad Johnson. Just from a QB perspective, 11 different QBs have won the past 15 Super Bowls, and 5 were drafted in the second round or later (45%). That's hardly a dynamic dominated by Brady and Wilson.
The OP is dead on - Rex and Marty's game plan was a big middle finger to JI, nothing else. The ONLY chance for Geno to have any success throwing was to mix in some play action when we were running the ball down their throats in the second quarter. I don't think anyone thinks we should just let Geno throw it around 50 times, but a PA toss on first down or second and short on occasion is what the game dictated last night. It was an utter disgrace and Rex showed his true colors as a petty, self centered jerk off. Goodbye Rex don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Seriously, last night was so wrong - Rex should have been fired first thing this morning. The fact that he isn't is a sign the Idzik is probably gone too. Because if he wasn't he would want to rid the Jets of Rex before he becomes really cancerous.
Geno sucks, he put himself in this situation. Those 3 interceptions on 3 straight passes against the bills should've been the nail in his coffin.
If your chances at the ring are 60% with a QB in the first 40 picks vs 40% with a QB from ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE SEVEN ROUND DRAFT, you have to pick the QB high and take the odds
If you start with the season the Peyton Manning era began, which is 1998, you get the following breakdown: Picks 1-36: 1998, 2000, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 Picks 37-whenever: 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2013 Undrafted: 1999 That's what I was talking about. Brady in 2004 and Wilson in 2013 are the bookends on a decade in which every other QB who won a Super Bowl were drafted between picks 1 and 36. The QB's on the teams most likely to win it this year: Picks 1-36: Denver, Indianapolis, Green Bay Picks 37-whenever: New England, Seattle Undrafted: none.
