I like Miller's explosiveness, and he's had some great games. It's just when he begins to get beat as a CB, he gives up. The fumbles don't worry me so much, because he's still young, and learning how to take a hit from a special teams guy while trying to create a big return is a skill that takes some practice. Maybe Mickens' arrival will be just what Miller needs to get the CB part of his game figured out. I have a feeling he will be a lot better on punt returns regardless. I'm not giving up on Miller!
At the beginning of TC last year, Miller looked great in man coverage. When they tried to teach him the cover 2, he looked lost. I hated that cover 2, and I'm glad it, along with zone blocking on the O line, is history. I think the new defense will be much better suited to Miller's strengths as a cover corner. Barrett, on the other hand, was probably a better cover 2 CB than a man or straight zone CB. He could well be the new nickel guy. I have to suspect that Rhodes will be the FS, with Coleman, Maddox and Smith all battling it out for the SS spot. Coleman could well end up being Rhodes' backup at FS.
totally agree with the past two posts, especially this one. i can't understand why everyone is down on Miller so much. he's very young and has so much time to burgeon; not to mention we got him with the 57th pick or whatever it was. if he turns out to be only a solid #2 CB, that's still very good value. but, like i said, he has all the physical tools required for a #1 CB -- he just needs more experience and some coaching. having Herm force that Cover 2 crap on him may have even set him back because it detracted from the experience he would have gained playing straight man coverage, which is his main strength. when he played man-to-man, he performed well. again, see the Carolina game: how many CB's in the NFL last year were able to run stride-for-stride with Steve Smith; furthermore, how many rookie CB's were able to do that? i have a lot of confidence in Miller now that Mangini is here. and i agree with you, thunderbird, that Barrett could very well be beaten out by both Miller and Dyson, especially if he starts out slowly like he always does. i doubt Mangini will tolerate that the way Herm did. (and i also agree with the part about Coleman; it seems the staff is high on Smith. the three way SS battle will be very interesting). cheers
H'mm when did I bet against the NYJs? Now that you alleged it prove it please. What I said is that whomever is starting in our DBF in 06 wil not be starting in 08. If you were a true fan you should be quite disturbed about that statement as it indicates that the players we have now palying those positions are not as good as some of you think they are. Then when some disputed my allegations I said OK dude put your money will your mouth is. So far no takets & if you want some action then I will be happy to take your money. Also since you babble on & on why not put down right now what you see are 10 assets that the NYJs now possess. Maybe if you did some true evulation of the NYJs instead of spreading MISINFORMATION on the board you may begin to realize the sorry condition Herm & Bway left us in.
You already know whgat I'm talking about, I'm not playing your retarded little child games,m if you bet money against Jet players, you are betting money against the Jets, I don't care in what capacity. Either that, or you have a gambling problem. So, which is it? By the way, you can take your lunch and shove it, grandpa. Now I REALLY have no interest in meeting you.
I knew that many, many days ago otherwise you would have done it already SLW. You can rationalize it any way you like. To bad I would really enjoyed taking your money. Be angry at the owner/GM/HC of the NYJs not me as they should have recruited more qualified players then a statement like what I posted would not have been posted.
it's pointless for anyone to take this bet with Champ; if Miller or Rhodes or Dyson are starting in '08, and he's wrong, he'll just quickly veer off course and say, "see player X is still starting...that just shows how bad this organization is that it can't bring in better players." of all the times he should have, Champ has never eaten crow. so don't play his games because they're not rewarding when he's proven wrong. cheers
So you put your money where your mouth is if you are so sure that the players mentioned by you will be successful
You are missing the point. If you lost the bet, you would say you didn't. You would twist things around as you always do. In other words, a lot of people here think you'de welch on any bet. I'm one of them. Such is your rep, 69.
Champ can never admit he lost, cant be a true man, look at the Vilma situation, he cant admit he was wrong about Vilma.
how about this: if either Miller, Rhodes, or Dyson start in '08, you finally check yourself into a rest-home; at least they'll have nurses who can change your diapers for you. cheers
You wouldn't be taking my money, because you didn't try to bet against any JETS with me, like you have tried to do numerous times with other people in this thread, BFCS. I'll be angry at whom I want, and right now I'm not even angry, just a little annoyed at a "JETS FAN" who would bet money against the players wearing JETS uniforms, POS.
It really is quite simple if a player is productive they stay if they are unproductive they go. I giuess that concept is to hard for you to understand
Why do you not list what you see as the 10 assets that the NYJs presently possess. Be angry at the owner/GM/HC former & present who have put us in the mess we are presently in. Some day you will come to realize really how much damage Herm & Bway did for us once you begin to wean off mothers milk unto something a bit stronger
I have a neutral person keep the $$$$$$. If you like another avatar bet is acceptable instead of $$$$$$$$
This coming from someone that can't muster a coherent sentence in his twilight years. Excuse me if I just laugh at your impotent condescension.
And coming from one of the largest purveyors of MISINFORMATION on this board (you do remember all those Herm are great posts do you not? makes you a laughable poster on this board IMHO.
didn't you just copy and paste this from another thread? you asked someone else the exact same "10 assets" question. scraping the bottom of the retort barrel, are you? cheers