So whose your top realistic choice for the Jets?

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Whose you Jets 1st round choice?

  1. David Decastro-G/Stanford

    9.0%
  2. Alshon Jeffrey-WR/South Carolina

    6.3%
  3. Courtney Upshaw-OLB/Alabama

    36.0%
  4. Johnathan Martin-OT/Stanford

    7.4%
  5. Michael Floyd-WR/Notre Dame

    6.3%
  6. Whitney Mercilus-OLB/Illinois

    15.9%
  7. Vontaze Burfict-LB/Arizona State

    6.9%
  8. Mark Barron-SS/Alabama

    5.8%
  9. Cordy Glenn-G/Georgia

    0.5%
  10. Other

    5.8%
  1. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Matt Reynolds from BYU? I'm not a huge fan. He's big but not very athletic. I see him as a stong run blocking tackle but not a pass great in pass protection.

    Zerbie and Adams would get similar grades from me. Both should be early second round guys.
     
  2. laxin

    laxin Active Member

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    Lets hope he doesnt do this again...
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  3. WW85

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    Harp, Actually Reynolds strenght is pass blocking. Reynolds has pretty quick feet and edge rushers usually don't beat him. Reynolds needs to work on his strenght and need s to put on more weight to help in the running game.

    I'm not a huge Mike Adams fan, he's good, but is overrated by most thinking he's a late Rd 1/Early 2 pick.
     
  4. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Eh, the bit I've seen of reynolds he looked to get over extended and was not good against the quicker Rushers. I guess it depends on what you've been able to watch lol.
     
  5. laxin

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    From what I've seen of Matt Reynolds, he's looked very good. Like you said, he is very good in pass protection... Sucks he's 25. That should cause him to drop a little bit, but he'll still provide a good 6 years at RT.
     
  6. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    It did not affect Danny Watkins last year. Teams will draft Oline early to start and all that age means is They'll get prime years out of a rookie deal.
     
  7. JohnnyThaJet

    JohnnyThaJet Active Member

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    As soon as I saw YouTube I knew what the video about Sanders was. That actually is something to be impressed by more than displeased. It is something taught to OLineman in college that if you make a mistake on offense like offsides or something you freeze and are out of the play. It teaches kids essentially not to commit penalties from my understanding.
     
  8. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Outside of CB and C (and obviously K, P), I don't think the Jets can go wrong so long as they take BPA. I hope that they put a premium on athleticism (and speed where applicable) when determining BPA this year as it's painfully obvious that we're severely lacking in athleticism and speed all over the field.
     
  9. NYJFOREVER

    NYJFOREVER Well-Known Member

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    i see this everywhere, why would the jets go safety there is almost no safety talent this year... they have more needs than safeties
    EDIT: Mostly O-Line, then safety IMO
     
  10. laxin

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    At first glance, it looks hilarious. But if what you're saying is true in this circumstance, then yes, it is kind of impressive. It seems like a very good reason for it though... Why else would he do that then?
     
  11. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Narcolepsy
     
  12. Lost on Revis Island

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    This is a very tricky draft for us. I am still unsure how the jets should approach it.

    I think we can live with a couple small FA additions to the defense. I have all the faith in the world that rex will turn out another Top 5 unit. Our offense needs help.

    In rd 1 as long as no QB, CB, TE, RB (outside richardson), or S. I think help at ILB, OLB, OL, and WR.

    My rd. 1 list would go like this (as of now):
    1. Luke Kuechly ILB
    2. David DeCastro OG
    3. Whitney Mercilus OLB
    4. Jonathan Martin OT
    5. Courtney Upshaw OLB
    6. Alshon Jeffery WR
    7. Riley Reiff OT
    8. Kendall Wright WR
    9. Malcom Floyd WR
    10. Dwight Jones WR

    What do ya'll think??
     
  13. laxin

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    I would personally rather draft a passrusher, OT/guard if its DeCastro and maybe WR instead of Kuechly.

    If all of those players on the board, it would be between Martin or Upshaw/Mercilus for me just because there is tremendous need there and value.
     
  14. dannymac910

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    Rg3 muthafucka! I domt give a fuck anymore!
     
  15. Lost on Revis Island

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    This is a spot i find debateable. The pass rush vs coverage. You can go after the pass rush guy, who if he turns out to be one of the best in the business will average maybe a sack per game, give or take a little. He will probably apply pressure (sack, hit, hurry) on 30% of pass plays. That leaves the other 70% of pass plays where you are going to need people who can cover for the normal amount of time. The numbers tell me a cover guy like Kuechly will have an impact on more plays. Also there is the tremendous need to cover RB and TE. I also believe rex can manage without an elite pass rusher. He has not had an elite pass rusher since he came here but has still been able to get brady off his game with his blitz packages. I think a guy like Kuechly can easily get undervalued.

    I do think we need a pass rusher, but I would opt for the safer pick in rd 1 like Kuechly or DeCastro. In rd 2 Nick Perry could be an option or even Vinny Curry.
     
  16. laxin

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    We’ve seen that Rex’s system isn’t able to cover up pure talent, as the effectiveness in pressure and confusion has decreased over the last 3 years. In his first year, Rex had to bring numbers and confusion to cover up the lack of passrush talent in order to get to the QB. With actual talent at the OLB position, Rex could bring less bodies and still create the same pressure, therefore allowing more players to drop back in coverage.

    We saw how valuable even a situational passrusher was with Maybin. I can only imagine how successful this defense could be with a good OLB prospect.

    Also, on passing downs, we usually have one ILB in the game, and more DB’s. I expect the Jets to sign a safety (i.e. Dashon Goldson, Michael Griffin, Reggie Nelson or Tyvon Branch) and the safety position is covering the TE a great deal, especially beyond 10 yards passed the l.o.s.

    I understand what you are saying, but a top passrusher through the draft would tremendously help the defense, and a safety through FA would fix covering the TE a lot.
     
  17. Lost on Revis Island

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    Its a toss up to me. I was trying to avoid bringing free agents into the question. I could argue bringing in someone like Cliff Avril, that will reduce (or at least mask) our need for a safety.

    Anyways, stats dont tell the whole story but, in '11 we were 8th in sacks, '10 we were 4th in sacks and '09 we were 9th in sacks. That is not to shabby. Our strength is covering WRs. I would estimate that most of the sacks we got were results of the coverage. I think our pass coverage would be even better if we had another LB who could cover for a few reasons. Like you mention most pass downs we only have one ILB in, but that could be because all the others were huge liabilites in pass coverage. If we have another who can cover that allows us to use Harris as a blitzer more, reducing a need for that dominant OLB. To me he is very effective in that role.

    The way we play defense is not like alot of other teams. We have been top 5 in yards allowed the past 3 yrs. We stop the run and force teams into 3rd and long, allowing us to bring the heat and make the other teams beat us. This yr we didnt stop the run as well as before, credit that to devito playing hurt, loosing Thomas for the season, and a decline in Scotts production, and Mo's learning curve. I expect us to be top 3 as long a we retain pouha next yr.
     
  18. CurbYourEnthusiasm

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    Am I the only one who wants Trent Richardson? I think we have to go back to what made us so successful in '09/'10, running the ball, which ultimately sets up Sanchez in play action.

    Looking at picks 1-16, I really think that if Cleveland doesn't take Trent (very possible), he can slip all the way to us at 16 pending no one trades up for him. Just about every team between 5-15 has a an elite/very solid RB in place.

    A Richardson/Greene combo might be too good to pass up.

    If he's off the board than I think we still go BPA which might be Upshaw. Would like a big time safety too but there doesn't seem to be great value there.
     
  19. SienaSaints

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    The Ravens say hello. There defense would not be as good without Suggs.
     
  20. laxin

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    I was thinking about Richardson yesterday, and if he falls, I dont see how we pass because he would be BPA BY FAR. He has the speed to get to the outside and create explosive plays and is probably the strongest pound for pound player in college football. He would quickly solve our running game worries and put us in place to have a top notch running game once again. And we all know how well Sanchez can play with a great running game...

    He is easily a top 5 talent in the draft, so if he fell to us by some miracle, I dont see how we could pass.

    Exactly. I dont expect anyone we draft to come in and be Suggs, but someone that could turn into even a lesser extent of Suggs would do this defense wonders.
     

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