Yes, let's ignore all of the injuries. And ignore that it was Mangini that taught Brown to play CB. Tony Wise - 17 years, Jimmy Raye - 30 years, Markus Paul - 9 years, Denny Marcin - 10 years, Mike Westhoff - 24 years, Bob Sutton - 7 years (hand picked by Parcells, and has stayed loyal to the Jets) I have posted this before, but you never respond. Kimo, Dwight, Dyson are not of any quality? And this matters how? After Belicheck's not so great tenure with the Browns, who interviewed him before the Pats? How many teams did Madden or Cowher interview with before their first jobs (both starting young as well)? All of what you post are just articles and quotes, I have yet to hear an original thought. They only give one side and are obviously intended just to troll. Are you kidding? You calling someone else a troll? Please don't pretend to be a Jets fan, everyone here knows otherwise. Go to the KC board they will welcome you with open arms.
please, oh please, i want to see Rajensen just attempt to respond to dabrowski. that was ownage. cheers
Nah they can't be the same person, Champ just hates the Woody, this guy hates Mangini and Tanny. Has anybody brought up that the Pats made the SB with an old Troy Brown playing CB? I guess Mangini doesn't get credit for that. Throw in the fact that Parcells like Belly only surrond themselves with the best football people in the business. I hardly think Mangini would have been incolved with these 2 for so long if he was clueless.
Who said they were the same person??? I originally said Champ>>> Rajenson, in that he is better(or greater than)
its been about 4 quotes, and of course YOU know in what context the comments were made right?....you guys love this coles guy for some reason....the man is sooooooooooo overrated and hes a pain in the ass loudmouth, and you will soon see for yourself
Mangini was courted and hired about 10 minutes after the Pats were knocked out of the playoffs in his first year as coordinator. There was no time for teams to beat down his door. God, your arguments are as flimsy as rice paper. Although I don't think champ has much to offer for detailed insight, the person that said he was >>>>> than you is dead-on. No argument is better than a bad one.
26th is a bunch higher than that dog that moved to kansas city. Where was his defense ranked before the Jets hired him. Oh....thats right...he never was a DC. Give it a break until after the season will ya? Watch the games and then make judgement....you continue to make yourself look foolish on a daily basis....rooting for your team to fail...do you realize what that looks like? Can you imagine if your team does well...that you will have a tough time enjoying that? (you could never enjoy that on this site...you would be reminded everyday how you rooted for them to lose so you would be "right") Get a new user name from a different computer...start over..and if you really are a Jet fan...come on board and root for your team instead of looking like the troll that you truly...100%...are.
Wow this thread really did get hijacked all right. Mangini ran a tough camp- brutal for some, and there was bound to be some griping and B&Ming. Thats what is supposed to happen in TC. But the media put him under a microscope since they were p1ssed at him, and seemed to try to create controversy. Now that tc is a thing of the past, its time to change gears, and I'm betting mangini knew that. So, its really good to hear that there is cameraderie in the practices and a positive, determined feeling. Go Jets!
Cimini is still pissed. He has used the Coles quote as the reason why the Jets will have tired legs in Tennessee. Richie, man. You have got to get over this already. This is from todays Daily News. Jets' set-up has no letup By RICH CIMINI DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER To help get his team in the right frame of mind for opening day, Jets coach Eric Mangini turned down the lights yesterday and showed a movie. The players probably would have preferred a nap. After a physically demanding training camp that left some players grumbling and aching, the hope in the locker room was that Mangini would lighten up, allowing their bodies to recharge for tomorrow's opener in Tennessee. That hasn't happened. Instead of scaling back the physical workload to concentrate on game-specific mental preparation, Mangini has continued to crack the whip, according to players. They practiced in full pads Wednesday and Thursday, which amounted to an extension of training camp. Mangini is steadfast in his philosophy, basically the same plan that turned the Patriots into a dynasty. Obviously, it works, but that doesn't mean the players love it. Once the preseason ended, "We kept pounding," wide receiver Laveranues Coles said yesterday. "We kept the pads on and we kept doing everything we did in camp. There's been no wavering in any decisions he's made or the way he's practiced. It's all been the same." Many coaches back off at the start of the season, letting the players' bodies heal after six weeks of camp. It will be interesting to see if the Jets are stricken with the dreaded tired-legs syndrome against the Titans. Does any of this sound familiar? In 2000, the Jets complained about being overworked by first-year coach Al Groh, but they got off to a 6-1 start. When they collapsed in the home stretch, it caused a player revolt. Publicly, no one has criticized Mangini, but his taskmaster ways are wearing on his players. "I guess this is his way of making a statement: 'This is not going to be what it has been in the past,'" Coles said. "Throughout my career, the week of the first game, it's been mental, not physical. But we've gotten both parts of it. He's given us the most physical part of it, and it's been grueling. Basically, he's letting us know this is what it takes to get it done." Said Mangini: "I think the players have worked incredibly hard to get to this point." Before practice - a typically light Friday session - Mangini worked on his players' minds, showing them a video of famous players and coaches waxing poetic about the excitement of opening day. It featured interviews with Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young and Patriots coach Bill Belichick, both of whom describe their experiences with opening-day butterflies. Mangini wants his players to appreciate the moment - to a point. "You can't get too high or too emotional," he said. The video may have created the opposite effect. Said cornerback Andre Dyson: "He should've shown that film before the game. It got me kind of excited."
Wait wait wait... Haven't they been trying to sell us the notion that Coles has been publicly critical of Mangini?
Cimini is expecting us to believe that players are privately telling him about how taxing Mangini has been. Cimini is really reaching here. Just another bitter article.
if any1 is against the mangina the F him...it's better than fucking with herman (munster) edwards for another year
