It would depend what they did in the off season after winning the SB. After the win in 69 they refused to pay several players more bucks which was the beginning of the end of the championship team & the onset of here hell since then.
I decided to take your question literally and look for positive things to write about the Jets and the new regime. Gonna do my usual by the numbers routines as it will let people who agree or disagree easily identify what exactly they are agreeing or disagreeing with. 1. The new management has taken a proactive approach to making the Jets roster better and deeper. Not satisfied with a defensive backfield that included David Barrett, Justin Miller and Derrick Strait at the corners they went out and got Andre Dyson to start at CB. It was a bold move since one of Barrett and Miller are now going to be pushed to the nickel back position, creating an intense competition in camp. A less proactive regime would have just assumed that Miller (2nd round pick last year) and Strait (3rd rounder from the year before) would duke it out for the other corner spot and a starter would emerge from the two of them. The stand pat guys would have drafted or signed a lower profile guy to create competition at the nickelback. As a result of the new regime's style of attacking problems the Jet's defensive backfield has a chance to be very good next season. Prior to the draft they signed Trey Teague, a good journeyman center/tackle. This theoretically lessened the Jet's need to go heavy on offensive linemen in the draft. On paper they could have argued they'd have Pete Kendall, Adrian Jones, Teague and Brandon Moore on the line with just one high profile addition required, either at tackle or center to finish the line. Again they chose instead to proactively go out and get some real depth by taking both Ferguson and Mangold. The Jet's offensive line is now likely to be a strength next year instead of just holding the line. The Jets had three quarterbacks on the roster headed into the draft. All of them had serious questions going into next season. Chad is injury-prone and has not finished a season since 2002. Ramsey has had real adjustment problems to the faster pace of the NFL. Bollinger looked overmatched last year much of the time he was on the field. All of that said there is a real chance that the Jet's answer at QB lies in one of these three guys. Bringing a Jon Kitna in would just have clouded the situation and at best presented a short term fix at QB, much as bringing Vinny in in 1998 did. This team wants a 5 year leader to emerge at QB in the next couple of seasons. Drafting Matt Leinart or Jay Cutler on the 4 would have presented the best chance at that leader, but at the cost of leaving the offensive line weak and thin at the start of the rebuilding phase. The Jets chose to address the line first, which was the soundest move, and then went out and got a good prospect to throw into the hunt at QB. 2. The Jets have not reached at need positions in this offseason. The Jets still have a problem at defensive tackle and maybe defensive end. They had numerous opportunities to draft a body (Gabe Watson, Claude Wroten, Chris Gocong) to fill one of these gaps. They, along apparently with the rest of the NFL, had these guys rated as non-priority players and chose to fill other needs where they had prospects rated higher. This is called taking the best player available (in your estimation) as opposed to grabbing whatever body fills the need. I'm guessing I'm really going to like watching Anthony Schlegel play. I'm going to get the opportunity because the Jets decided he was a good value and fit at 76 instead of reaching for Watson. 3. The Jets have been very measured in terms of their cuts in the offseason so far. Losing Mawae was tough, but it was a likely possibility given his age and injury last season. Losing Fabini was a blessing. Other than that the Jets have been very careful to try to preserve what value is on the roster headed into camp. A different crew might have come in and cut a half dozen starters from last season's team to make a point about rebuilding. Kendall was on the chopping block, but he had some real value if used right so he's back for next year. The same can be said for Chad (Jets wound up with more than ample space to cut him if they had to.) Justin McCareins, Brooks Bollinger and Bryan Thomas are other examples of people who could very easily have been gone on a whim. This regime gets it that they're going to need a lot of talented players to win in the AFC East. They've only cut the guys they absolutely had to so far. That speaks volumes about their priorities for the team. 5. The Jets have signed and drafted people who are proven leaders to rebuld with. Kimo Von Ohlhoffen, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, Anthony Schlegel, Brad Smith. That's a lot of leadership to add to the mix of a declining team that had a definite morale problem last season. Half of the challenge in the NFL is getting the lockerroom focussed on the tasks at hand. That group of players will help immensly in accomplishing that objective. Me-first players like John Abraham and Ty Law were allowed to leave even though their skills were superior. You build a winning attitude with team spirit, not "where's my money?" 6. The new regime are tough bargainers who are not going to be fleeced easily. There have been several opportunities for the Jets to fold and accept lesser value than they were due in the last 3 months. The Abraham situation appeared to be very unpromising with Abraham and the Falcons maneuvering to corner the Jets into taking a 2nd round pick as compensation for him. The Jet's answer was to bring Seattle into the conversation to firmly fix JAbe's value at a first round pick. Then JAbe and the Falcons tried to wait the Jets out on the theory that they'd fold and take the 2nd. Finally the Falcons made the 3-way deal to get JAbe. The Jets got their first round pick and we got Mangold. Then the Falcons whined about Tannenbaum's lack of professionalism in shopping JAbe and all of us got to laugh at their frustration and enjoy being on top for a change. The Reggie Bush and Matt Leinart situations presented even greater challenges as the press whipped us all up with the notion that anything other than coming out of this draft with one of those guys would mark it as a failure. Bradway would have folded like a paper bag and sacrificed a lot of value to get one of them. Our guys went out and ignored the pressure and did their jobs. They've been on the job for 3 months now and they've demonstrated that they're tough and resourceful, both with the NFL and the media. That's a great thing to see early on. I see a lot of reasons to be hopeful as a Jet's fan right now.
Thanks for your attempt you actually sound like yu are employed by the NYJ media dept. What you wrote if you have not realized is the same spin we have been hearing since 01/13/69 & look where we are 37 years later hearing the same things we heard way, way back then.
It just sounded like you were cause what you wrote is exactly the spin you are getting & will get from the NYJs. Just keep in mind it is the same spin that I have heard since 01/13/69. You see the cover of the book has again been changed but the text is exactly the same 37 years later. Does not instill confidence if you catch my drift.
What if the spin is the truth this time? Another way to put this is: let's assume all the things I wrote were true. In that case how would you ever be able to tell if you were being spun or told the truth? Sometimes you just have to believe what you see in front of you until it's proven wrong.
Chump you really shoot yourself in the foot with every uneducated post you decide to push upon the members of this board. I thank the creators of VBULLETIN for the ignore feature, as the only time I read your meaningless banter is when its quoted in someone else's post. That being said, Bradwaysux, amazing post... This is some of the best material posted on the board in a long, long time. You really hit the nail on the head in alot of key areas. Don't pay attention to Chump's comments- he's the only one listening to them anyway.
Same old stuff must be your memory has failed you. Sorry if you do wish to read my posts. That is probably why you also have been a purveyor of MISINFORMATION so you now become #2 on the list I mentioned to Jensen so he can ID the ones who know zippo about FB
Well I rather take the route until it is proven it is just spin. We will see in 90 days or so huh how much was spin & how much was fact. Just remember that they say that history has a way of ALWAYs repeating itself. We have a very long legacy to overcome if you choose to believe that we sort of hit lotto as you outlined in your posts. I want you know that way back when then were using the same word bookend for OLman named Powell & Ward & Cadigan that they are now using for F & M & see where those guys got us.
I think there are 2 different points of view - do you evaluate the approach, or the results? Obviously it's a spectrum, you can evaluate a combination of the 2. Evaluating results is the easiest (either we win a SB or we don't, or whatever your goal is), and it's also most tied to our happiness - if the Jets FO has a great approach, and drafts great people, who all get hurt in a freak plane accident, aren't you still going to be pretty miserable watching games in November with Testeverde at QB? The problem is that evaluating results makes it easy to criticize, but isn't very constructive. Saying the Jets stunk last year (which is true) doesn't really suggest a way that they can improve. At this point, all I can do is be happy with the approach of the FO, and hope that in some December in the future I'll be happy watching the Jets play...
If you were to read between the lines correctly I am saying that that THIS FO did NOTHING different that any FO before them & until they can prove that they have upgraded the team then I take the position they have not.
I enjoyed the previous post discussing what the jets hope to accomplish, but trying to reason with CJ69 is like trying to punch through a brick wall. The decades w/o a championship have molded 69 into an old cantankerous jet fan. Maybe its only natural given the nature of the jets, but def'n don't let it get under your skin. Looks like one guy got banned already for getting frustrated :breakdance: It's ironic b/c I want to respect anyone who can be a fan of a unsuccessful franchise, especially for more then 3 decades, but his lack of insight or meaningful posts combined with his headstrong pessimism throw any and all respect out the window. :sad: Still, being that I actually like to have hope/faith for the team I'm rooting for, I agree with you on many of your points. Your kool-aid is alot more refreshing then champs LOL :beer:
Call the Waahhhhmbulance... Champ is whining about no championship no championship. you sound like a democrat, who just likes to tear down republicans and tell us that thier plan is better, yet you never identify "YOUR PlAN" but trust you it's better. LOL funny stuff, thats why I am an Independent... Ellis
close but no banana for you...i think the amount of people on this board who think you have no knowledge for football except bitching about everything involving the Jets is close to 100%....what basis are you implying that i have no football knowledge on...that i only have 400 and something posts???....all of your 5000 posts are worthless...give it up!!!:rofl2:
Wow BradwaySux, good read. Clear, concise and optimistic. Something to look forward to instead of 40 years wandering the desert. No "start the kid" or "Penny is toast" stuff. I too like what I see from the staff and believe that making the team is more about competition and less about seniority.
