So...are you a kerry rhodes fan again?

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  1. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    I respect your opinions on secondaries more than anyone else on the site. I think you're probably the most knowledegable guy on the board when it comes to the D backfield, so I value your opinion on the subject. (That's not blowing smoke either.)

    I 3/5 agree with you. Mostly because I felt the same way watching it live. I was screaming at the tv when it happened. Things like "See asshole! THIS is why Jets fans don't like you!" and "Why the F**K do I defend you all the time!?!?"

    But when I saw Boomer's analysis of the play, Scott blew his coverage. Did Kerry not make up for it? No, he didn't, and that's a mark against him. However, guys expect other guys to make their assignments. And Kerry is obviously not the type of player who can adjust on the fly (see: Ted Ginn.) He's got crazy talent, but he's not a great thinker during the action. I know, it's not exactly a great characteristic for a safety, but he is who he is. You give him an assignment, and he'll execute it. Just don't ask him to make an adjustment on the fly.

    Hence why he had that strip sack. His entire assignment was to blitz Rivers, and he executed it flawlessly.

    Honestly, I think Rhodes would have had a better career as a WR. His personality and football skills would have had him at Braylon Edwards' level in terms of payoff.
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Don't get me wrong, I am not laying the entire blame for that TD on Kerry's doorstep. Scott would not have needed such immediate over the top help if he had committed to the receiver instead of biting on that weak-ass fake that Rivers made to the back, but this thread really isn't really an argument about this particular play - I just used it as an example of Rhodes' limited ability as a coverage safety.

    I think that both Rhodes and Scott should have committed to Wilson, and neither truly did until it was too late. At that point, the play probably would have gone to the right side where Lowery was covering Jackson - and that is a more favorable matchup than Scott over a big receiver, believe it or not.

    If had my choice, Scott would have impeded Wilson inside enough to re-route him closer to Rhodes. In a perfect world and all that shat.
     
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  3. ShadeTree#55

    ShadeTree#55 Active Member

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    Always a fan, just wanted him to shut up and perform.
     
  4. aychichi

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    Kerry needs to get on the Adrian Wilson diet and eat some steak. Dude looks tiny out there.. and yea he's an average safety at best
     
  5. WesleyWalker

    WesleyWalker New Member

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    over rated ass clown...

    anyone who compares themselves to Ed Reed a couple of months after being BENCHED by his head coach is a jerk off...period
     
  6. Namath2Kolber

    Namath2Kolber New Member

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    I don't hate Rhodes but he's not worth the contract he has. I have no problem with a guy making more than he deserves as long as it doesn't affect the team's cap. If it does, I have no problem trading or dumping him.
     
  7. NY2MD_FS

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    so we can trade him for picks ala the cowboys when larry brown won it and he ended up getting paid by someone else. I forget if he was a FA or if the cowgirls traded him.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I was thinking more of Deion Branch, but the same idea applies.
     
  9. rmagedon

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    Ha! Funny everyone touched on the fumble and Wilson TD just like I did watching that game for the 4th time. I agree with Abyz. Rhodes was caught out of position. Even if, like Simms said, he was supposed to help Lowery over the top, if Rivers throws it to Jackson, Rhodes would've been late getting there, because he was completely out of position to make a play on BOTH routes (Jackson and Wilson). Scott deserves some of the blame as well for getting sucked up to the LOS tho.

    I didn't wanna say nuttin cause we won. And people hate talking abt players when we win. Rhodes had a good game, but he could've had a GREAT game. I guess I'll settle for good.
     
  10. Mambo9

    Mambo9 Well-Known Member

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    That REALLY pissed me off! Lately he's been having some big plays but overall he still is doing his job on an AVERAGE level while getting ELITE money.

    That's my biggest problem with him... you can't play AVERAGE, have an AVERAGE commitment to this team (I'm being kind here) and get ELITE money!

    If he was earning 3 mill a season I'd be all for him staying but for 6/7 mill a season!? Next year will be uncapped but my guess is in 2011 the cap will come back and we'll need to find the money to pay Mangold, D'Brick, Revis, D. Harris ecc ecc.
     
  11. ThunderbirdJet

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    Well, Wilson is a TE, not a WR. He didn't get many targets this year, and I think this was a play that SD installed just for the Jets and more specifically, to target Rhodes if the Jets are in any kind of zone coverage.

    Rhodes blows his assignments in zone coverage often. On this play he got caught in no man's land. He waited too long to commit himself. He got sucked over towards the far sideline, and by the time he realized he left the middle-back end zone uncovered, it was too late to recover. There is no way Scott is supposed to be covering the back of the end zone on that play.

    I really don't like Rhodes at all. His early success went to his head. He talks like he's some sort of all pro. Even if Rhodes was playing at that level he's talking too much.

    He blew his assignment with Ginn, and Welker absolutely owned his ass. Still he shoots his mouth off. What is most annoying is that he has the talent to be very good. He only wants to make big plays, he plays for himself. He is the only Jet that seems to be putting self in front of team.

    With Rhodes, it's all about Kerry. OK, nice play, you got a sack. While you are screaming at the stands pounding your chest, there is a loose ball on the ground. Compare that to Leonard getting a black eye diving for a fumble with no helmet on. I used to like Rhodes, until it all went to his swelled head.
     
  12. talisaynon

    talisaynon Well-Known Member

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    wait, wait, wait. Lowery was singled up on VJack?

    That makes me believe Kerry's not at fault here. Lowery on Vjack is a mismatch of epic proportions.
     
  13. rmagedon

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    Even if Rivers throws that ball in the vicinity of VJ, Rhodes would've been late getting there as well. That's how out of position he was on that particular play which is the point (I think) ppl are trying to make.
     
  14. BleednGreen

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    What was so good about his sack? He ran in a straight line directly to the qb with nobody infront of him...he blew coverage on the final drive of the jags game and he sucked against Miami...this guy is overrated now and can be easily replaced...he was a beast in his early years but he got paid and doesn't care anymore.
     
  15. statjeff22

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    To be honest, I didn't notice that at the time. Looking at it now, however, it certainly looks like he looked back after the sack, saw the ball on the ground, yet started running to the sidelines while it was still loose, presumably just assuming that the Colts would recover. That is unforgivable, and contrast it with how Ellis closed on the ball from 6 yards away to dive and try to get it.

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  16. ThunderbirdJet

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    Exactly. He didn't know what to do, and ended up doing nothing. He has to see that SD has a 2 TE set there. At a minimum, he and Scott have to communicate there. Scott also has responsibility to protect against a delayed draw, or Rivers running up the middle. No way he could be at the back of the EZ on that play.
     
  17. BadgerOnLSD

    BadgerOnLSD Banned

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    Yeah, I was pretty annoyed by Rhodes continuing to roll away from Rivers after the FF. There's an argument to be made for momentum, but he certainly wasn't trying to get back to the ball.

    But he'll remain in my sig pic until he's no longer a Jet.
     
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  18. rmagedon

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    Hoooollllllllllyyywoooodddddd....hahaha. What a clown.
     
  19. ThunderbirdJet

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    Yes... he IS a clown. Ryan knows it too.
     
  20. twown

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    How could he not?? Talent pales in the light of a play like that. Head so big he can't even stick around to see who falls on the ball? It's fucking nauseating.

    I can't even read this thread anymore. Makes me ill.
     
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