It makes zero sense not to tender Snacks at a first round price. He's a restricted free agent if a team makes him an offer we can match it
We can agree to disagree. I tend to think that, with the amount of talent invested in DL with Snacks, Wilk and Richardson, Jets can make a lot of things happen even with 2nd-tier talent in the LBs. That's where the cap saving should come from - 4x LBs that benefit greatly from the fantastic DLs. If they do get a blue chip edge rusher, then secondary can get that much cheaper in return.
I think that is completely realistic. People were saying "what??" when NE gave up a 2nd rounder to Miami for Welker. They are all about locking up undervalued assets in their prime, which is what Snacks is. Plus they just dumped Wilfork. It is too logical for Macc not to see the writing on the wall. You don't play hardball with your core guys and try to lowball them at the risk of losing them when they are entering their prime, you know they fit your system, they are good in the locker room, and haven't given you any grief with off the field issues. If Macc lets Snacks hit FA, he will end up in NE. It will be something like Revis v 2.0 on a smaller scale, except it will be worse in that you could have kept him in house for, relatively speaking, chump change.
I'm not sure how this works on this end, maybe you can explain.l if we tender him a first rounder. Does he get more money from the jets?
Remember. Even with 1st round tender, Snacks is picking up a few million [which is a lot in layman's term, sure] but he's not commanding 10+M like Revis. Jets must not flop on this one - they had better secure Snack's service.
how much would Snacks make on a longer term deal? it's hard to gauge, as there isn't currently much precedent on NT's. Rubin on the Browns was making 8.8M per on a 3 yr deal. Coefiled on the Redskins at 6M per, and then a really big dropoff to guys making in the 3M range. Snacks is an excellent run stuffer. but he's also not a 3 down player. considering our cap space, and the hope that we keep Dline a strength, maybe 5M per? seems fair, but have no idea what Snack's camp might be seeking..
First round tender is $3.113 mil a bargain for a player like Snacks Second round tender is $2.187 mil saving us just under $1 mil We have the right to match but tempting fate means that another team can dictate the terms of the contract (that we match) instead of us negotiating the extension at our leisure.
No it wouldn't. A first round tender would be about $3m, and a second round tender would be about $2.2m. It would only be a lot if another team made a higher offer and the Jets decided to match it. But other teams can't just throw out high numbers to jack up the price the Jets would have to pay - because if the Jets choose not to match it, the team making that offer has to do the deal and give the Jets the first or second round pick as compensation. Edit: Didn't see the earlier reply that already mentioned the numbers to you.
Hey if Snacks takes the type of deal some are suggesting then I'm all for keeping him. But I just think some team will end up overpaying for him. Personally I agree with some that he's only a 2 down player and the gap between Ellis and Harrison isn't as big as some may make it. If Snacks could help us land a second round pick ( a potential Marcus Peters or Dorial Green-Beckham player) then I wouldn't mind it. The d-line would still be great if went from Wilk-Harrison-Richardson to Wilk-Ellis-Richardson. But it's just one man's opinion.
Now, with Wilfork set to hit FA, Jets should do very well to lock him up. If Snacks ends up in NE [will happen if Jets don't do something] I'd like to hear what you have to say then.
we're winners no matter what so long as we tender him, keep him for a year, get a second, match a long term option, everything comes up gang green.
This is a fairly simple situation. Put the 1st round tender on him and try to work out a deal. If somebody makes a deal with him evaluate it and then either match or take the pick. It's not rocket science.
I don't think it's that simple. 1. Harrison did perform well. We need to see if it was because Jets coaching staff actually found diamond in the rough, or because Harrison benefited greatly by playing between Richardson and Wilkerson. 2. Depending on the answer to question 1, the flow of logic changes dramatically; if he indeed is a diamond in the rough, then you need to think about how you will replace him. 1st round pick is not a sure thing, and Kenrick Ellis is all you've got to pin your hopes on. If it was the latter, THEN your logic will follow.
