Smith vs Sanchez 14'

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  1. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    I see those 26 TD passes/17INT and top rated red zone offense in 2011 and i see a guy with the right offense and right personnel can easily do enough to get this team some wins in 2014. I see a guy who has the ability to step up in pressure situations and is a solid teammate.

    I have no problems with him getting a chance to win the job in 2014. You say he is bottom 5 but what is every backup and old vet people want to bring in? Elite?
     
  2. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    He is a turnover machine ala Geno Smith but at least Geno is a rookie. He has almost 100 fumbles+INTs in his 4 years. He sucks. We as Jet fans deserve better then this bottom 5 QB play we have have now for 5 years now. We know Sanchez is not the answer already so there is no need to backtrack. Its funny that fans like you even want someone who has shown how bad he has been back on the team next year. Its comical almost that fans just like you will settle like this.
     
  3. Trip McNealy

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    Sanchez isnt coming back...even then assuming he'd be the same guy arm strength wise is a stretch. Shoulder surgery for a QB is generally bad.
     
  4. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    ask drew brees how his shoulder is - -- sanchez tore his labrum -- the shell around the shoulder not the cuff itself which is much more of a significant injury.
     
  5. Trip McNealy

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    Or Chad Pennington.
     
  6. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    If the team's offensive talent continues to be as poor next year as it is now, Sanchez would be the least of our worries. It would mean that Tanny to Idzik was a lateral, if not downward, move.
     
  7. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez will FOREVER live on these forums! Holy shit! LMAO

    He didn't start or play one game in the 2013 season, yet he is still the center of discussion on here hahaha

    Jet fans never cease to amaze
     
  8. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    Pennington's shoulder was really shredded -- cuff, labrum - all torn up..but he still won the AFC East in Miami with the right personnel and the right system.
     
  9. kevmvp

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    No, but there something different, and there are a couple players out there who deserve a shot over Sanchez. We know what Sanchez is. Can we win with a loaded roster like we had in 2010 with him? Probably. But we arent going to have a loaded roster next year.

    What worries me about bringing Sanchez back is watching him play average football in the pre season, but clearly better then Geno. We go into the season with him and the same thing continues, he has his typical up and down season with some really ugly games thrown in there.

    He's not talentless but he's best suited as a backup. Maybe one day he will figure it all out but i'm not interested in waiting, or going down that road again for one more season.
     
  10. Ajitator

    Ajitator Well-Known Member

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    Going into next season with Geno and Sanchez guarantees that we won't go into the same problem because it allows for us to go and get some play makers / skill position upgrades.

    If we can spend all of our draft picks on skill position and maybe figuring out or DB position then if both Sanchez and Geno are even just mediocre we have a team that can still compete, And if they don't tear it up as the year progresses we draft a QB in 15' and let him grow with all the new talent on the team.
     
  11. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall this offense ever being loaded. Good pieces - yes - good OL - yes...but they never had elite receivers or running backs. They had running back by committee, Leon Washington/Brad Smith - This team was run the ball and play defense. 2011 was the first time the running game really didn't pop and the offense nearly got Sanchez killed with Wayne hunter. That was Burress and Holmes playing receiver.

    You don't think with some serious talent - which is what the 2014 offseason is all about - Sanchez couldn't come in and improve on what we saw this year out of geno? You don't think geno should be able to show a hell of a lot more in camp?
     
  12. 101GangGreen101

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    If the Jets can't find a veteran QB to come in and compete, then I guess the Jets should keep Sanchez (of course at a discounted rate)
     
  13. legler82

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    That's what happens when you are the starting QB on a team that goes 2 consecutive AFCGs your first 4 years for a franchise that hasn't won much. Until someone else replicates you will forever be renown or infamous depending on which side of the Suckchez line you reside.
     
  14. 4jetfans

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    I say clean house on the WR department. Give Geno another year with someone who can
    run a complete route and actually catch the ball. Last years draft was huge, this years
    draft has HAS to be better and should be all offense in the first 4 rounds after that BEST PLAYER on the board. As much as I liked Dirty when he can here,, ( I also have his Jersey ) its
    time to move on. Let Geno keep the keys to the car for now.
     
  15. legler82

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    ...so he can consistently stare him down and then throw it to him late after he has attracted 3 to 4 defenders to his area on the field?
     
  16. Ajitator

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    So that we can eliminate the "talent around them" excuse and decide if we really need to trade up / figure out how to get a top tier QB in 15'.

    We have so many draft picks this year that we will inevitably end up with an extremely different supporting cast around whatever QB is under center. If the on the field product still stinks we know neither of them have the right to a starting spot and we can move on.
     
  17. Richiebsweet

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    Sanchez is a lost cause. To have four years of NFL experience and keep doing the same mistakes over and over again is just ridiculous.
     
  18. JetsUK

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    that no-one could succeed with it as it is? :)
     
  19. 4jetfans

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    ..so he can consistently stare him down and then throw it to him late after he has attracted 3 to 4 defenders to his area on the field?

    HE is a rookie and he can be taught to change that, Next year the game will slow down
    for him. Just needs more talent around him. Do we roll the dice next year in the draft and
    see if this QB also needs a year to learn. Are you looking for a QB to come out of College
    and take us to a Super Bowl?????
     
  20. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    I agree he is a rookie and that is common. I strongly disagree, it's a given that the game will slow down for him. Lastly, I vehemently oppose to giving a 2ND ROUND QB who has far more bad than good 2 YEARS worth of NFL starts to learn on the job. Look it up, it the modern day NFL that just doesn't happen. The closest example would probably Tony Banks and the Rams but even that example is not very close. Although, he was a 2nd round pick, he was the first QB taken overall. Also, he did not put up the kind of horrendous numbers Geno has put up while playing for a worse team. As I stated in other threads, contrary to popular belief Geno is more Kolb, Clemens, Beck, Jackson, Clauson, Henne, Banks...etc. than he is Luck, RGIII, Peyton, Eli, Rodgers, Rivers, Aikman...etc.

    Lastly, I don't expect a QB to come out of college and take us to the SB even though Suckchez came very close to doing just that. What I expect is a QB to come in and at least be able to take snaps from center and perform 3-7 step drops without walking out the back of his own end zone. I don't think that's too much to ask.
     

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