Sights and Sounds - Jets Minicamp (June)

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  1. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    That throw to Moore is... something else. Again, those are things that you buy when there's hype. That's a special throw that goes beyond "he's finding the open man".
     
  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    If you look at it from a personal professional perspective he probably takes delight in being right rather than the team sucking. Beat reporters would much rather cover a good team. It draws more fans to the team, more clicks, and ultimately more revenue for the team you're covering. Especially when they stick you on ESPN segments because your squads in the playoffs.

    He's a bit smug sometimes but he's fine IMO and catches way to much flack here. The Jets have been off-season warriors for too long and we've all (myself included) bought the hype throughout the years and thought Cimini was just being negative.
     
  3. Noam

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    It could have been an awful throw, or it could be that Carter was supposed to break out, not in.
     
  6. Noam

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    It looked to me like Wilson was throwing back shoulder as Carter was covered with no chance to complete the ball otherwise. He threw the ball in a spot only Carter could make a play on it. It looks like a lot of Wilson’s back shoulder throws at BYU.
     
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    Good to know that Mims is out there.
     
  8. NCJetsfan

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    Great call! I should have thought of that as back shoulder throws are a Wilson specialty.
     
  9. BroadwayAaron

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    Unfortunately that was Mike White which is why I lean towards "terrible throw".
     
  10. NCJetsfan

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    https://jetsxfactor.com/2021/06/15/ny-minicamp-notes-denzel-no-longer-a-starter-not-exactly/

    NY Jets minicamp notes: Denzel Mims no longer a starter? Not exactly
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    Robby Sabo
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    06/15/2021

    FLORHAM PARK, NJ—OK, so if they signed Corey Davis as the No. 1 and Denzel Mims obviously assumes WR2, that means the third spot is up for grabs. Right?

    There’s veteran Jamison Crowder, a man whose recent contract restructure places him in the mix. There’s Braxton Berrios, otherwise known as “the man catching every Zach Wilson pass.” There’s also the newly-signed Keelan Cole and rookie Elijah Moore.

    1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 … 7? … 8?

    Don’t forget about Vyncint Smith, Lawrence Cager, Josh Malone and little-known Manasseh Bailey, a former basketball player who’s currently making the most while operating out of the slot.

    So many bodies, so few spots, too much confusion to even start thinking about numbers that go as high as 7 (bodies kept once the preseason concludes). Sure, this particular New York Jets wide receiver room is a deep and unproven one, making the prognostication game that much more difficult, but such a game in the first place is silly more often than not.

    It’s minicamp. Depth chart confusion is a good thing, and with any luck, more confusion can turn into something great down the road.

    The most recent bout of fan confusion deals with the second-year Baylor product, No. 11. Tuesday in Florham Park saw Mims look on as Moore, Berrios and Cole assumed first-team reps. This was also the case during the last media-available OTA session last week.

    Therefore, some fans are understandably jumping the gun on Mims’s low stock status. Please don’t. There’s a very good reason not to: Robert Saleh and Mike LaFleur deploy an old-school mentality.

    Along with Mims, who’s only recently returned from injury, Davis and Crowder made their respective debut Tuesday in Florham Park. Davis also returned from injury while Crowder, as previously mentioned, decided on sticking with the Jets via pay-cut.

    As practice finished out its last seven-on-seven session, Mims, Davis and Crowder were all clearly visible while watching Moore, Berrios and Cole get the first call. Why? Well, because on this team, players have to earn it.

    Miss time, fall behind. As simple as it sounds is as lost as it’s become in its football practice. The NFL level, courtesy of its fantasy-football-loving fans, oftentimes plugs players into specific spots entirely too early. Even real-life coaches are often found guilty of rushing a guy up the depth chart too soon.

    Not Saleh. Not LaFleur. Not even when Joe Douglas spends $37.5 million on a “so-called” No. 1 wide receiver.

    Granted, both Mims and Davis are returning from injury; perhaps that played into things. And this was Crowder’s first day back. Then again, Davis is the $37.5 million man, Mims is the prized second-round pick, and Crowder is the tried and tested veteran who’s already “earned” his place in the league.

    It goes both ways. But it’s the old-school coach looking to drive competition that plays it day-by-day and free of assumption.

    Labeling Denzel Mims a non-starting receiver for the Jets is beyond premature. That isn’t to say Cole has no chance of beating him out this August. But at this stage, we’re still dealing with rotation and old-school minds that require everybody to earn it.

    Besides, LaFleur has been rotating his receivers, tight ends and backs constantly over the course of the last three weeks, and all three “presumed starters” heading in have seen some time with Zach Wilson and the first team.

    Mims even caught a touchdown from Wilson on Tuesday—a back-shoulder flat-type-fade beauty that displayed fantastic timing.

    Not unless Jerry Rice and John Taylor are on the field should a WR1 and WR2 be stamped in ink during the month of June.

    Wilson’s up and down day
    And just like that, the former No. 5 pick connects with the kid to get team sessions off to a good start. On a five-to-seven-step drop, Wilson led Davis beautifully on a dig route for a good chunk (20-plus yards).

    A little later, a Kenny Yeboah sighting takes place as Wilson finds him down the seam against zone. The anticipation was tremendous—as Wilson threw it well before Yeboah turned his head—and the undrafted rookie timed it right.

    Unfortunately, Yeboah dropped an easy one a few plays later.

    Trevon Wesco snagged one near the right sideline and decided to turn on his truck-stick body language (in a somewhat not-so-serious way).

    Wilson’s mistakes included a Brandin Echols pick-6 resulting from a forced throw to the middle of the field. Not one, but two defenders were in the area. The ball popped up and Echols took advantage.

    All in all, it was a decent day from Wilson—neither spectacular nor terrible. Well-above average is a good way of describing it.

    The young defensive DBs
    Another rookie defensive back found himself in the mix Tuesday: the aforementioned Echols who featured a pick-6 on this day.

    Practice started with somewhat of a walkthrough. Saleh was even spotted playing some quarterback, as helmets were seemingly optional. On one side opposite Bryce Hall was Jason Pinnock, and in the slot was Echols.

    Michael Carter II also received his fair share of first-team reps, but Tuesday was Echols’s day.

    Carl Lawson’s familiar spot
    Carl Lawson assumed his familiar right defensive end spot at times during team sessions. After joining the team just last week, the Jets’ prized defensive free-agent acquisition looked good out there.

    An interesting note is the idea that John Franklin-Myers is playing inside much more than out, while Vinny Curry is holding down the left-side edge for the most part.

    Safety J.T. Hassell once again paired with Lamarcus Joyner at safety.

    Elijah Moore continues his eye-popping play
    One of the plays of the day was a Wilson to Moore 9-route resulting in a big chunk. With Bryce Hall all over him, in perfect position, Wilson found Moore’s outside shoulder near the sideline.

    The exciting thing about this rookie is realized when understanding what’s between his ears. He’s fundamentally smart. He’s savvy. He even cares about the details.

    This play popped thanks to Moore’s understanding of the position. He didn’t allow Hall to squeeze him near the sideline, which means he made sure his split/release and stem were inside enough in order to give himself space near the sideline.

    It was this space that he used to create last-moment separation (perhaps with a bit of a soft shove) that made the throw and play possible.

    Moore also caught a Wilson slant via a rub pattern with Tyler Kroft, among other highlights. The Jets have a good one with this kid.

    Michael Carter’s one-handed grab
    Another spectacular completion came courtesy of the rookie running back. Starting from the backfield, Michael Carter went with the wheel down the right sideline.

    The rookie did the rest with just one hand.

    Backup quarterback Mike White enjoyed a far better day than he’s previously played this spring. Here, he got the job done with the kid.

    James Morgan also had a bit of magic in him on this day when he found Vyncint Smith for a bomb that resulted in a 40-plus-yard touchdown towards the end of practice.

    The injured area
    The injured area was loaded today.

    Those separated from the team during positionals were Mekhi Becton, Lawerence Cager, Blaker Cashman, Jonathan Marshall, Daniel Brown, Chuma Edoga, Ronald Blair, Foley Fatukasi, Blessuan Austin, Tristen Hoge and Marcus Maye, the man who showed up to mandatory minicamp despite the ongoing contract negotiations.

    Other notes
    Unlike the previous regime, this coaching staff really executes some unique things at practice, especially concerning the special teams.
     
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  11. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    This is TGG that captured my heart many of years ago this place has been ON FIRE today reminding me the old JetsInsider!
     
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  12. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    This was my favorite tweet of the day. We're heading into training camp with momentum and focus under coach Saleh who has his players ready to fight.

    Props to @Noam as well for blessing us with all of these mini-camp updates thnx you man.
     
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    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for laying this all out and not just providing the link! I know it takes time to delete all the adds and other BS that comes with transferring a large txt like this one! Thanks.
     
  14. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Kid didn't rank #2 within the entire Country in both Receptions and Receiving yards and within an elite SEC Conference; despite only playing EIGHT (8) games for nothing.

    This kid is so special that A.J Brown not only self admitted to not being able to do the type of shit on the football field that Elijah Moore can do, but also moved Elijah Moore into his home with him all because he saw something absolutely special in Elijah.

    This kid is forreal. An Odell Beckham Jr. type of freakish WR; and he broke the Ole' Miss record All-Time for most catches during a single season (86)? And it only took him 8 games to break it?!? For an NCAA program that's been around dating back to 1893 with 3 National Championships? And he just broke the All-Time Ole' Mississippi record for most catches during a single season despite only 8 games? Mind boggling to me.

    A.J. Brown once held the record with 85 Receptions. Played 12 games. And Elijah Moore just broke it despite a full 4 fewer games? Jaw dropping.

    Elijah Moore is also tied for #1 in most Receptions during a single game @ Ole' Miss with 14 (tied #1 with A.J. Brown and Laquon Treadwell's 14).

    It gets even better.

    He's got 6 games that rank within Ole' Miss top 8 for single game Receptions. 6/8?!?

    14 catches = #1 (tied).
    13 catches = #4 (tied).
    12 catches = #7 (tied).
    11 catches = #8 (tied).
    11 catches = #8 (tied).
    11 catches = #8 (tied).

    That's insane man.

    He's the most UNSTOPPABLE WR who's (ever) caught passes for Ole' Miss.
     
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  15. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    As an FSU fan this kid coming out of the ACC for UNC reminds me of a more electric Leon Washington and an identical clone of my dude #4 Dalvin Cook in terms of style of play and overall quickness; we drafted a great one ranked #4 last year in rushing yards and #1 in average yards per carry (8.0) and is an excellent pass catcher out of the Backfield.

    Our Offense is going to look so different with both Elijah Moore and Michael Carter flying around; it's going to be... FUN.
     
  16. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Perfect spiral, every time!
     
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    bad throws lead to some of the best catches though as we see here. big props to carter for that. Mike white not looking great though lol
     
  18. LAJet

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    Spot on.
     
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  19. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    One of the most classiest interviews you'll ever see from a professional ball player (all while being picked @ and antagonized by the media). .

    The media tried everything within their power to bait him with questions in order to create storylines full of drama; they could not break him.

    • Tried to get him to talk about his feelings about being forced to take a pay-cut; stiff armed them (multiple times, too).

    • Tried to get him to talk about his feelings of NY drafting Elijah Moore; stiff armed them.

    • Tried to get him to talk bad about Sam Darnold; stiff armed him..

    • Tried to get him to talk about last year's atmosphere during the offseason under Gase; stiff armed them .

    Etc.

    Me, personally? I would've removed myself from that press conference within a New York minute.

    He said it best. There is so much WR talent here between Davis, Mims, Elijah and Cole along with himself that as long as the coaching staff utilizes them correctly, that; they'll ALL BE ABLE TO EAT.



    One of my favorite Jets right here.
     
  20. JetFan20

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    Crowder is a Duke grad so obviously a smart dude, but you are giving him too much credit here. The Jets PR staff preps these guys well.
     

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