Sorry, but I totally disagree. It was no embarrassment to the NFL or the Jets. It's only an embarrassment to fans who want to choose to be embarrassed and offended. I've seen a ton of teams lose playing "prevent' D. It gives the QB lots of time, and receivers can only be covered for so long. The Jets pressure had been getting to Carr the entire 4th Qtr. and his accuracy was crap on longer passes. If they had gotten to Carr, Williams would have looked like a genius. IMO what you're espousing is just conventional thinking, doing things the way they have always been done, even though the results have been greatly mixed.
I didn’t say anything about a prevent defense, he could have played a cover 2 and gave his CB some help over the top. The other reason teams go with conventional approach to defense is because the tried and true works. There was no reason to put his CB in that position, he could play a bend but don’t break defense. Carr is a terrible QB and he made it incredibly easy for him to make that play. I still want Williams gone, time to clean house and get a new CS.
An all-out blitz with our secondary at that time was Williams completing the tank. Our only hope is the NFL offices do not see it as so.
The NFL won't look into Williams' playcall. If they were to step in there and say that his playcall was a delibarate attempt to lose the game, then we enter that slippery slope where other coaching decisions can be subject to investigation.
We stay competitive till the 4th Quarter...then lose Rinse repeat...use the following Sunday Tell me Miami didnt do the same last Season for Tua I will be a Contrarian and say we give Greg W a second chance with a new HC different depth chart ...and Trevor L in house
Was Williams defensive stand to stop the Raiders right before that also part of the tank ? Williams knew that Darnold and the Offense would go 3-and-out ? One 1st down wins it. Some tank.
The only times when teams lose playing the prevent is when the opposition has time and time outs. Raiders had neither. The blitz was called intentionally to put the Jets in the best possible position to lose and it worked to a tee. The NFL never investigates its own shenanigans and never will.
Puff...puff...puff....well I declare that...puff...puff....puff..... LMAO. The prevent defense argument would apply when allowing a team to move down the field in piecemeal fashion with plays that can include check offs to TEs and RBs. Except there wasn't time. There were only 0:13 seconds on the clock and the Raiders were half a football field away from the end zone - this was Hail Mary time. The Raiders kept their TE and RB in--max protection. In that situation with only seconds to go? Football 101: you keep everything--EVERYTHING--in front of you. But you would rather have Lamar Jackson (an undrafted FA and not a speedster to begin with) left out on an island against Henry Ruggs, a 1st round talent who also ran the fastest pre-draft combine 40 yard time (4.27). You obviously didn't notice the Jets previously dodging a bullet when lead-footed Mathias Farley got torched by Nelson Agholor only to have Carr miss the throw. Or, maybe you didn't hear Carr on the postgame saying that they were surprised (and thankful) that the Jets continued to sell out and leave their slower DBs out there with no over-the-top help whatsoever. Or maybe you didn't hear Marcus Maye (not "embarrassed Jet fans" but Marcus Maye himself) call out Gregg Williams afterwards. Or, maybe you just didn't watch the game as is usually your (out-of-state) wont, your know-it-all-ness notwithstanding. LMAO. Leaving a 4.6 corner alone on a 4.27 burner with seconds to go and 50 yards away from the end zone. LMAO. Adam Gase 2.0. .
Devastating loss. This one hurts more than the week 1 kick to the nuts loss against Buffalo last year. A W/avoiding 0-16 would've been a early Christmas present. Yeah I read what Maye had to say and Darnold said they should'v won the game. Gregg Williams is still here? Come on coach Gase fire him already!! He deserves it.
Honestly, it is NOT the right play call, but also not a tanking play call. If it works, Carr is sacked and time expires. You could argue the Raiders would not expect it, and it would catch them off guard. So there is a logic to calling it. That is what Williams was hoping for. Up 4, there is not a need to call that though, as all you need to do is protect the end zone. Rush 3, drop 8. Instead he rushed 8, dropped 3, like a lunatic. Still, I would say it had 0% to do with tanking. It was a fireable mistake. Gase makes mistakes like that weekly though, so not sure 3 G Williams will be fired for it this week.
Sooooo let me get this straight....the coach responsible for bounty gate wouldn't possibly throw a game? Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
They just showed a few examples of Gregg doing all out blitzes in Hail Mary situations...so this isn’t his first rodeo doing this. Seems like everyone did their part playing over the top on a 3 man route except Jackson, who got played on an out and up.
I'm fully aware that we don't have Revis and Cromartie in the secondary. We didn't have them in the secondary for most of the 4th Qtr. when the Jets were pressuring Carr and he was missing his receivers by a mile on the longer routes. I can understand how Williams thought it could work again, even if he didn't have a history of trusting his CBs one-on-one in critical situations, but he does. So it really shouldn't be that much of a surprise that he did it today. I'm not saying that it's what I would have done, or it's the right move, just that I can understand it, and I think dismissing the move out of hand is wrong. One can just as easily say that because we didn't have any proven, quality veterans in the secondary, and because of the day that Waller was having, that the best way to protect those secondary players was to go to a full scale blitz and try to get to Carr before he could find a receiver and throw the ball. It was a gutsy call. If it had worked, he would have looked like a genius and no one would have been screaming about it.
Like all blowhards and bullies, when it was he had the option of being accountable, he hid and didn’t answer.
Anyone defending any member of this coaching staff after that play call went through is fooling themselves. There is no circumstance with no timeouts, 13 seconds and needing a touchdown that a cover 0 7 man pressure with a guy manned up on the runningback is a good call. Or even a reasonable call. Not to mention - Gase needs to call a timeout after they get lined up and reassess. Algholor ran right by two defenders the previous play too. Williams was overrated by Jets fans last year due to playing a bunch of trash quarterbacks and offenses down the stretch. Now he might not ever get another job.
