Comments and ratings disabled.. SHOCKER. First sign to know the video is bullshit. Usually you only see that for lying creationist videos that intentionally mislead people. What could you possibly lose by allowing comments and ratings? This video is nonsense. Oh yeah, a hypothetical meeting that never happened really proves that all natives were savages. Most of what people believe about the native americans comes from history WRITTEN BY THE INVADERS. Gee, I wonder if they are going to be biased at all? Nah, couldn't be. They all died of disease, and were heartless savages! :lol: Do you think German history and American history agree about the descriptions of world war 2? Of course not. I agree there were some violent tribes, and the natives had wars as well, but acting like they were all savages is just as silly as acting like they are all peace loving hippies. There were plenty of peaceful tribes, there were also violent ones. There were plenty of tweeners. Stop acting like everything is so black and white. Also I looked around but can't find any historic references to the word Redskin being used as racial slur. That's not even close to the implications of the nbomb, which was used specifically to degrade the people as lesser humans, while redskin seemingly was a visual description although, yes, the origin of the word itself is still up for debate, but there's no proof it was ever used to oppress people. How often do you hear somebody say, "Oh fuck those casino owning redskins!" It just doesn't really happen, although I'm sure there are folks somewhere that infer things like that, but usually they just say savages or something similar. That's like calling "white man" a racial slur. Some people might use it negatively today, but the word wasn't used to degrade people and enslave them as unequal people and definitely doesn't have a historically negative connotation. Indians (Cleveland Indians anyone?) is also a stupid term. The only reason that even came about was because the original expeditions to America thought they had reached India. The way that term became prevalent and is still used today boggles the mind. If I were a native american, I'd be more upset over the Cleveland Indians, than the Washington Redskins. And the funniest thing is that Columbus gets a national holiday for "discovering" America and enslaving the populations and all kinds of other despicable practices, even though the vikings, natives, and probably others came here long before that. Columbus day is the stupidest most offensive holiday in the history of holidays, just ahead of Thanksgiving, another celebration of native slaughter.
Jets really should be called Planes... as to not offend props. May be Gliders? For the non prop ones? Or Air? For anything else? I am going to hire some POS massengale lawyer so he can get rich and waste everyone else’s time and money.
Patriots use guns... guns are bad... Patriots should change their name. Bills are unfair to the non-working citizens... we're rubbing money in their face... Bills should change their name. Steelers harken back to days of the steel mills... conditions in the mills were terrible... horrible reminder to those that worked there... Steelers should change their name. Browns... C'mon... might as well call them the Cleveland "n-words"... Browns should change their name. Oilers... Valdez... poor birds... oh wait nevermind... Texans... they're outlaws that want to keep out Mexicans... Texans should change their name. Broncos... Umm OJ... Broncos should change their name. 49ers... digging for gold... getting rich... screw capitalism... 49ers should change their name. Ravens... Edgar Allen Poe... Dude married his 13 year old cousin... Ravens should change their name. Cowboys... Anybody see Brokeback Mountain? Me neither... Cowboys should change their name. Saints... ever hear of separation of church and state?... Saints should change their name.
Giants- offensive to folks smaller in stature, they should change their name. Packers- of course, for obvious reasons, they should change their name. all teams should be named after animals or birds, unless the particular species is endangered, then it's off limits. Keep the damn Redskins, bring back the Red Men, and the Washington Bullets....Wizards? seriously?
War is written by the victors. The United States conquered this land -- it's OURS. The United States also won WW II. Or do you think the Chippewa could have stopped Tojo and Hitler ???? And yes, General Miles sitdown with the Indians is historically accurate. And the facts contained therein 100% true. You may not like to hear it, but it is true.
That has nothing to do with what I said. My point was that history IS written by the winners, and to assume it is unbiased is a bit naive. You got proof of the General Miles sitdown and the dialog that the video refers to? Sounds like Rightist propaganda! OMG the conservative media strikes again trying to paint natives as savages! :lol: Bahahaha. I can't even comment on that. Stupidity and racism in one line, not unlike a lot of your Jets posts. I am well versed in many aspects of Native American spirituality and most of it IS NOT savage and does not contain crap like human sacrifice. It is based on benevolence. You can ignore it and quote some silly youtube video but it doesn't prove your point and neither does some cooked up exaggerated story written by the invaders. I'm a big fan of PROOF or it didn't happen.
Changing the names of teams is stupid, The Wizards is one of the dumbest team names in sports, that offends me more than the bullets ever did.
lol, this would be pretty funny actually. With corresponding change to the uniforms and mandatory long hair.... The PSLs would be selling like hot dogs.
Wash. Foreskins Btw, the St. John's "Redman" nickname had nothing to do with Native Americans. It was a moniker hung them by a sportswriter back in the 1920's in reference to their all-red football uniforms.
How is this racist? Stupid, yes but racist, how? As a European, I'm just taken aback how every subject, that has something to do with different ethnicties is blown to massive proportions and the end result is always someone yelling out "racist". Same thing here, same thing with the so called problem that no minority HCs were hired, same thing with the new Tarantino film. Like LTJF said, if all of the people getting offended would just stop getting offended, the World would be a better place.
I feel pretty much the same way about PC crap, but really... "They weren't slaughtered, I'm pretty sure many of them run casinos !!" You don't see the racism in that? Would you see it in a statement like "Africans weren't enslaved, I'm pretty sure many of them work at KFC !!" or "Mexicans were never deported. I'm pretty sure many of them work in landscaping !!" or "Indians were never shunned. I'm pretty sure many of them work at 7-11 !!" That's legit, right? It ain't that bad, I know, I don't mind off color humor either, but I gotta call a cat a cat and a dog a dog.
No it's not racist to me. They're stereotypes, not racist. Do Native Americans find it offensive or as you say "racist" that they use their abilities granted by the US government to run casino activities? Neither is the fact that people from Central America emigrate from their own countries to the US in seek of a better life, same as your ancestors left 400 years ago. The problem now is moving to the North Americas isn't as easy as it was back then. That's why many of them are now working in landscaping etc. If we were say in a casino in Minnesota and you asked me what ethnicity the owner was, would it make racist if I answered Native American? If you say yes, then that's the exact problem with the US today.
Getting pretty tired of this sanitized politically correct society. Do you really think redskins fans hate natives or look at them in a derogatory way?? It's just a team name, fucking lighten up. If I'm Snyder I leave the name until I actually see people stop showing up and buying gear because of it. Not gonna happen
It's different to state a fact that a casino owner is a Native American, but when you suggest that that's the only thing they do, or all the survivors of the inquisition run them, then yeah, it's just a racist as saying all African Americans love fried chicken and watermelon. Yes, it's a stereotype, and yes it's a stupid one like most because there are still a lot of natives out there that have nothing to do with casinos because it goes against their spiritual beliefs. With all that said, I'm still against changing the name of the Redskins.
No, he or she didn't want 1 million spam posts from the Indian activists. In each case, history was written by the victors -- I agree with our history on WW II. Do you agree with our history on Manifest Destiny ?? You're the one who has the romaticist, Sitting Bull-version of history. General Miles gave fact after fact. Try and refute them. You can't. Columbus didn't enslave anybody -- learn some history. Columbus Day and Thanksgiving Day are American traditions -- if you don't like it, leave the country. Or move to a reservation.
ESPN: Daniel Snyder: "We will NEVER change Redskins" http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9259866/daniel-snyder-says-washington-redskins-never-change-team-name Sorry about the double post. So Snyder says they will never change the name. Native Americans say the word "Redskins" to them is the same as the "n-word" to African Americans. I have no idea if that is true (although wikipedia did tell me it was, whatever that means) but if it is, put me in the class of people that would support a different name. Can you imagine a team with the n-word across the helmet? America is better than that. Is it really THAT big of deal to change the name? (red-tails is stupid, btw).
