Should the Jets really pull the plug on Sanchez?

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  1. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    bump, cause this deserves to be reinforced.:beer:
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Sanchez's last 16 starts are 6-10 at this point. Point taken on the Jets decline but exaggerating it into 4-12 doesn't make the case better.
     
  3. titan999

    titan999 Active Member

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    The Jets should have pulled the plug on Sanchez a long time ago. At the very least, they should never have given him a completely unnecessary and undeserved contract extension last offseason. If he cried and pouted over the Jets flirting with Peyton Manning, someone should have had the stones to tell his coddled a$$ that he's not in Manning's league, and that the best way he could show the team it was wrong was to go on the field and prove them wrong. Only a completely delusional fanboy of Sanchez cannot see that he is done in NY.
     
  4. HeartSpazm

    HeartSpazm New Member

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    I don't think we should give up on him completely just because of his huge guaranteed contract. Not until after the 2013 season anyways or unless we can find a sucker team to take him off our hands. What I want is real QB competition. He does not have to start. If he does Rex needs to bench him sooner when he start to stink. What I don't want to see is Sanchez in 95% of the snaps when he is playing bad. Give the other QB's a full drive or a complete half so we can compare how they handle the reins for once.
     
  5. mec693

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    keep him until u dont need him

    keep sanchez until we're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. If we lose because of sanchez on sunday were out and id ride mcelroy out for the rest of the season to see who we have. If that happens you can go into camp with a qb battle like 2006; it seemed to work then.
     
  6. Aewhistory

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    I don't think anyone, least of all myself, are saying tht McElroy lit the world on fire last week. Nor is anyone saying tht he is the next Joe Montana. However, he came into the same exact game, played with the same exact team, and played against the same exact defense as Mark Sanchez.... and utterly humiliated our so-called starting QB. Sanchez looked more like a third stringer and McElroy looked quite comfy out there.

    Anyway, the point is that we might as well see if McElroy has some hidden talent. What are we gonna do, LOSE? Big friggin deal. Sanchez has mastered that already. So no one is saying that GMc is a QB deity, but comparing his performance to Sanchez last week was night and day, and there are quite a few of us that would love to see what the kid could do with this opportunity.

    WORST CASE SCENARIO of starting McElroy is that we get a better draft pick and we find out he is a dud. Okeedokee with me. In fact, I'd be thrilled as it would allow us to cleanly move on and pick up some good talent as well.
     
  7. Aewhistory

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    LOL! Guess I should've read your comment first..... :)
     
  8. Big Blocker

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    It is far more likely than not that we have seen Sanchez's ceiling, and it is too low to be acceptable. I personally hope he's gone this off season. If he is back with no competition as the starter, you can flush 2013 away, and it merely puts off what needs to be done at Qb a whole year.
     
  9. Bellows1

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    Speaking of flush... if Sanchez is the starter next season, they should make him change his jersey to #2.
     
  10. 101GangGreen101

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    Get Teddy Bridgewater and win the ship. TANK FOR TEDDY!
     
  11. cromartiecove31

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    They should go after Alex Smith or Kyle Orton, someone who is atleast an average QB, imagine how good this team can be if they aren't getting constanly fucked by a QB's turnovers
     
  12. wildaces

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    Even worse it was a prayer he threw up. Done and have been done with Sanchez.
     
  13. Frenbar

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    Every time I read the title of this thread all I hear is the sound of water going down a drain.
     
  14. Diddy

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    Orton likes the turn the ball over too. He was leading the NFL in turnovers in 2011 until he got benched. Orton is also a garbage time warrior. Believe me if he was the back up, he will outperform Sanchez on the practice field and then he will stink it up against live bullets.
     
  15. RuJFan

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    Don't worry about it. It least your acknowledged.
     
  16. RuJFan

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    Question...
    I read somewhere that getting rid of Sanchez in this postseason will trigger some kind of "cap penalty" for the Jets. Is that because changing QBs would mean still being on the hook for 8.5M to Sanchez + pay the new guy = over the cap? Or there is some sort of actual penalty from the league?
     
  17. Demosthenes9

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    No, it's because of how guaranteed money was converted to bonuses. For cap purposes, salary counts in the year that it's earned, while bonuses are spread out over the life of the contract. When you sign or trade a player, for cap purposes, the bonus is accelerated.

    Say that you structure the contract so that it's over 5 years, with a $20 mil signing bonus. Your cap hit for that bonus is $4 mil per year, even though you paid all $20 mil up front. Each year, you'd have the same $4 mil cap hit.

    But, if you trade or cut the player, whatever part of the bonus that hasn't counted against the cap yet is accelerated. Say that you trade or release the guy after the 2nd year of the contract. 2 years of the bonus, or $8 mil has already counted against the cap. That leaves 3 years unaccounted for, so that accelerates and you take a $12 mil cap hit just for the bonus.
     
  18. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    I see, thanks.
    So is there any bonus due to Sanchez, or is it just the 8.5M guaranteed Jets owe him?
     
  19. The 1985er

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    What a lot of you are not realizing is that, either way Rex comes out of this looking good. Rex has given Sanchez plenty of opportunity to turn things around this season. Then he benched Sanchez for his poor play. Turns around and give Sanchez his job back against the Jags. If Sanchez plays well, you can say maybe the benching was what he needed. But if he struggles, Rex can always go back McElroy. Plus neither Sanchez or anyone can say that he wasn't given enough leeway.
     
  20. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The cost of cutting Sanchez in 2013 is 8.25 million guaranteed salary and a 17.15 million hit on the cap. The 8.9 million extra on the cap is prorated bonus money accelerating forward + a small hit from something undefined on nyjscap.com, probably in the form of other guaranteed bonuses moving forward at the cut.
     

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