Should Roger Goodell Resign as Commish?

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Should Roger Goodell resign as Commish?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Should get Fired

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    It's pathetic that it actually took a woman being punched on camera being released on TMZ for the NFL to be called out for their pathetically lenient stance on domestic violence.

    There has been more than a decade of this shit since media started becoming an open source and only now, with Goodell stepping into a giant fucking turd, are they actually taking it seriously.

    Fire Goodell.
     
  2. BleedGreen89

    BleedGreen89 Well-Known Member

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    Joe Pa HAS to go. Michael Sam HAS to stay...lol. I agree, the media witchhunt in these things is insufferable
     
  3. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Well Jo Pa HAD to go, he was dead.

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  4. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    NFL pays him like $40 mill per.

    I don't think he's got any problem getting laid in the foreseeable future.
     
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  5. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Jerry Jones is a billionaire and gets caught doing questionable selfies with strippers in a bathroom.
     
  6. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    He deserves to get the ax (voted 'get fired') but being the owner's boy I think they'd ask him to resign.
     
  7. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    I hope they kick Goodell's ass to the curb.
     
  8. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    This is so fucking true.
     
  9. GreenGreek

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    These witch hunts are ridiculous. People act as if Goodell was the abuser. If there's a "cover up," it was probably as an act of mercy for the victim. Had he come down hard Rice it would have become a big story right off the bat. Odds are the Player's Union would have fought it, as Rice wasn't convicted of anything. The spot light would have been on Rice and his now wife. I don't doubt that the victim pleaded for leniency, because of the effect that a stern punishment & the media circus would have had on her family. The punishment was probably seen as a settlement. Rice came clean, the Player's Union wouldn't appeal, a suspension was dealt & everybody could put the incident behind them as quickly as possible.

    Guess what happened? It all flew under the radar for a while. People talked about the draft, Michael Sam, the pre-season, etc. The Rices seemingly had put the incident into the past. Then TMZ releases the video, the media frenzies up a lynch mob, and is likely doing far more psychological damage to the victim than the actual punch did. What Rice did was terrible. Why is it the NFL's responsibility to punish him when the justice system has not? Why must TMZ seek to destroy the lives of people, by publicizing every bit of dirty laundry they can? Why should Goodell pay for the actions of one player?

    Calling for people to be fired is the modern equivalent of witch hunts and stoning. People are just craving the drama, blood and media attention.
     
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  10. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Fuck off with that. NFL players have been getting slaps on the hand for decades after domestic violence incidents, then a guy gets caught on camera knocking his woman out and Goodell gets caught in a lie about what they knew.

    This is the exact type of precedent that was needed to make a real change that the NFL was obviously never going to make unless it was forced to.

    Fire that motherfucker.
     
  11. zace

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    He's not the real problem. It's the owners. He does what they want and they hide behind. To me this incident Isnt the reason he should go. It's a multitude of inconsistencies from bounty gate to spy gate

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  12. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    I basically agree with all of this.
     
  13. VanderbiltJets

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    The NFL assumed the tape would never go public. Once it did, they backtracked and indefinitely suspended Rice claiming he lied to the NFL. We now know that the NFL was definitively aware of the tape and its content, that Rice did not lie to the NFL, and that the NFL's justification for suspending Rice is explicitly because he "lied". Goodell needs to go. That isn't doubtable. How many others need to resign with him?

    "Ignorance isn't an excuse."
     
  14. VanderbiltJets

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    The case and prosecution are under review. Saying that because Rice wasn't properly prosecuted because of incompetence, corruption, or whatever other similar reason, doesn't justify giving Rice a pass from player conduct penalties. The NFL rightfully doesn't use a prosecution's decision to influence suspensions, and when they have it's been unjust or irrelevant. Principally, the NFL should've indefinitely suspended Rice from the beginning. They covered up for Rice for the same reasons that they destroyed the SpyGate Tapes.

    Guess what? TMZ didn't ruin Ray Rice's life. Ray Rice did. His wife deserves better and should leave him behind in the rubble. If you're a professional athlete you can't assume that a video of you in public won't surface. Assuming the video never became public, to argue that additional relevant information shouldn't be publicly available, especially when it contradicts what has been presented/reported, is absurd. Working in the NFL is a privilege, and there should be no place in this league for low-life wife beaters. It's a shame a tape of Terrell Suggs pouring bleach in his wife and kicking her in the face never surfaced; sadly, the public is more reactionary against violent imagery than descriptions.
     
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    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    The media in this country lives in a politically-correct, sanctimonious fantasy land that I suspect very few people actually live in. It's gotten to the point where I actually root for some of these disgraced public figures, because I just can't deal with the phony, preachy, sanctimonious, bullshit anymore. Just being honest.
     
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    People like confirmation that people out there are bigger pieces of shit then they are sure but that's not what this Goodell thing is. He was the phony, preachy, sanctimonious crusader and now that he's been revealed as an absolute fraud people are delighting in his fall and want him gone. Nothing wrong with that.
     
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    1000% but that's human nature.

    When word came out Ray knocked the shit out of his wife, it's a story we've heard a 1000 times, but the image of him dragging her out was the thing that initially wowed all of us. If there had been no video of the dragging, it would have been a dog bites man story-the video was what brought out the level of outrage.

    But we all knew he slugged her. That wasn't the outrageous thing.

    But now SEEING it?!?

    Holy fuck--NOW it's driven home.

    But we all knew it, didn't we?

    It's the imagery that makes it real.

    We hear things everyday that should repulse all of us, but it's just a sound bite, a news story that allows us to flip the page, switch the channel, click on the next link.

    Seeing a full page color photo on the front page of the Post of a man in an orange jump suit about to get his head cut off by a bemasked terrorist in black or the video of it is what REALLY makes it real, doesn't allow us to flip the page or change the channel.

    We're visual creatures at heart.

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  19. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    That's true and a very fair point. I just can't stand the media in general.
     
  20. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    I was with you until this, Ray Rice ruined Ray Rice when he punched his girl in the face. TMZ did not ruin his life. Sadly TMZ was the only group of journalists if you even want to call them that who actually did some investigating. Why wasn't ESPN trying to do their own investigating? Oh right because they are in bed with the NFL. Now they are the ones leading the charge when they should actually have done some real reporting instead of send some dope like Stephen A Douche out on camera to claim it's the victims fault. You can dislike TMZ for what they do or did but they don't hide behind some agenda, they do the dirty work that real reporters would do before cable news divided the country into a left and right.
     

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