me thinks the off season activity will dictate what the jets really think about their 2nd round QB. if any of these 3 things happen then u can "take it to the bank" that the jets know they whiffed on the pick... if they go hot and heavy (over pay, give up picks) after a veteran QB, OR if they draft ANOTHER qb relatively early, OR they re-sign either geno or fitz. Seems obvious to me if any of these occur, plan B is in effect, despite how the jets will spin it. if hack was worth any salt the jets would be keeping him under wraps (which they are) ready to open him like a brand new christmas present some time next season. well, we all know how hard it is to keep secrets these days and judging by all the press clippings, player comments, etc etc this seems like the furthest thing and the least likely outcome at this point.
I wanna be like "Yup, they're def being patient on this one" ... it then common sense sets in and trapped between "don't know WTF they are doing" & "2017 Passer ain't on the payroll yet"
We have picked some terrible players in the 2nd round over the years. The Jets are very good at completely wasting 2nd round picks. We've also had a few good picks, although with some of them we traded up to make the pick and gave up value that way even when we were getting a good player. In the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds your board really needs to speak to you when you're making those picks. You can't afford to reach for a project at a position of need just because you like him. There is no way in hell that Christian Hackenberg was the 51st player on any NFL team's board last season. I doubt that on pure value he was the 83rd person on anybody's list. The fact that he was a QB and that the Jets have had a total dumpster fire at QB for most of the last 4 decades is what moved him up the Jets list. You have to watch out for traps like that. Aaron Rodgers was a very good QB at Cal under Tedford. He needed some refining at the NFL level because of his Juco background but nobody doubted that he had the talent to play in the NFL after two seasons at Cal, this despite him still having a year of eligibility left after transferring from Butte Community College. He set Cal records for lowest interception percentage and fewest Int's thrown in a season his last year there and led the Golden Bears to a 10-1 record including completing 26 passes in a row against a very good USC defense in Cal's only conference loss. He wasn't the perfect candidate for an MVP caliber QB but he was an excellent project.
Hey isn't the Bills game over? Hmmm..guess he didn't play Just another Shitz audition for more con jobs
Mac did a much better job drafting of Petty than Hack. Petty was 4th rounder who many said was a steal at the time. Hack was a reach. Its all about where you draft a guy that matters. If Hack was taken later than this wouldn't be an issue. I would rather us go for sure things in the 1st and 2nd rounds than taking these guys who have the "uncoachable talent" but have no feel for the game. Typically the 4th and later rounds you take risks on guys. There's no opporunity cost there because UDFAs are just as likely to succeed at that point.
We'll see. I'm not gonna react to that even if a "coach" said it. I'm not gonna respond to 800 posts on here telling me he sucks either. I'm gonna wait and see with my own eyes, I trust mine more. BUT. If a coach said something like that to the media I hope he's rooted out and summarily shot.
man, if Hack turned legit starting QB, it would actually bring hope back to us fans, and maybe get Mac and Bowles back on the right track. we just don't have that type of luck tho. seems like a long shot. if Gailey goes, they really need to pick an OC carefully. need someone with history of developing young QB's with simple easy reads supported by a running game. any thoughts on who that might be?
If a coach actually came out and said that and I have a feeling one did say it, it certainly explains why they're hiding Hackenberg. That particular coach was wise to keep his name off that statement for several reason not the least of which is the certain upheaval in the CS this offseason. One doesn't usually paint bullseyes on your own back. Not if you still need the job you're working. Hackenberg is the star of the GM's eyes. His first Qb draft pick. The one he was second guessed from here to Altoona for making. Macc needs Hack to be successful. To be the QboTF. If Hack can't hit the ocean from a boat, that brings into question Macc's rep as a talent evaluator. Since this is Macc's first GM job, he's gonna do everything short of bribing defenses to turn Hackenberg into the second coming of Big Ben. I wonder if the Pyramids will have been built in a shorter time frame than Hack's reconstruction. First overpaying for a washed up Revis. Then getting into a bidding war with himself and losing. ($12mil to Fitz). Then signing Mo to a huge contract only to see him come back too soon from injury AND bring attitude issues with him. Macc desperately needs a big time win and Hack has to be that win. Also explains why Petty doesn't stand a chance here. So who is brave enough to badmouth the Boss's pet Qb project? Especially if said project isn't panning out? Nobody that likes their job for sure. Sad thing is, I have a bad feeling this statement probably was the truth. Certainly explains the "plan" not to unveil Hack until he's ready. No matter how far into the future that may be..
they will not play him sunday for a couple of reasons: - if he does well then they look stupid for only playing him now when its too late - if he does badly then it puts enormous pressure on them to take a QB in round 1 or otherwise reach for one, this way they can go BPA and say "we think we already have our QBotF on the roster"
I think the fact that Todd Bowles did NOT play Hack suggests that Hack may have potential. There is not a worse person to evaluate talent on the planet than Bowles, except for maybe Rex Ryan (still gushing over Clyde Gates and Mark Sanchez). Bowles played Revis all year and Fitz most of the year and they were the two worst players IN THE LEAGUE THIS YEAR! Being benched by Todd Bowles while watching Ryan "six pack at KC" wouldn't hurt my feelings if I were Hack.
Gotta love Bowles' response to the Hackenberg criticism: "Bowles said the biggest thing Hackenberg needs is to play. But when asked why the Jets then didn't play him this year [like in a prime opportunity, a meaningless game to close out the season], Bowles said, "he'll play when his time is right." https://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/01/christian_hackenberg_not_concerned_with_report_of.html
I disagree brad. Not only do I disagree that teams can't afford to reach for a project at a position of need, I believe they absolutely should when it comes to the QB position. Also I disagree on Rodgers. Just because he is great now doesnt mean we should revise history. Rodgers had many doubters, numerous QBs from Tedford's system had already failed, there were concerns about his athleticism, his rail thin frame and the way he cracked under pressure. He was very robotic at Cal. There were scads of "experts" labeling him the next bust QB. It is remarkable how much he has progressed. I gotta say I was wrong, I thought he would be a terrible pro. I didn't like Alex Smith either
Connor Cook is getting his first start in the playoffs but we couldn't give Hack 10 minutes of garbage time against the Bills.
The Raiders have no choice; they were going to go with McGloin over Cook before McGloin got hurt too. But I'm sure had Hack gotten into the Bills game, it wouldn't have been pretty.
