A sweeping generalization invites easy rebuttals, but to be fair, I'd say Aaron Rodgers sitting his first three years behind Brett Favre, and Young being stuck behind Montana, are a weeeee bit different than Hack's situation I would selfishly like to see Hack play just to give me a reason to be interested in the finale, but one game isn't going to tell us anything. If we're still having this conversation at the end of NEXT season, then I'll worry.
Brady was drafted in 2000 and played every game in 2001 except 2 and won a Super Bowl. He wasn't coddled, he was a 6th round pick. Romo was undrafted and sure wasn't coddled, if it wasn't for Quincy getting in trouble, he would have been cut. Rodgers played behind a HOF QB, he wasn't coddled, and could have started for many other teams day 1.
Splitting hairs really, every situation will be different. All of those QBs sat for at least a year before they played. Brady was the #4 QB his rookie year. I guess what you're really asking is, how many second round QBs sat behind three crappy QBs their rookie year without playing. In that case, probably none, I guess. And you're probably wrong about Rodgers, considering he had to re-do his entire throwing motion when he got to the pros.
There's more than one path to being a successful starting NFL quarterback. Some come in and start right away as a high draft pick or a mid round draft pick. Some sit and go on to have great careers. Some need to start, and figure it out on the fly, while others need to sit and take it all in before they're thrown to the wolves. Maybe Hack goes on to suck. We likely shouldn't have taken him as high as we did. But to act like his career is over because he's not going to play a meaningless game with four out of five of our starting offensive lineman on IR, our starting runningback out, and our starting flanker on IR is just so fucking ridiculous.
Favre had his worst two years as a pro to date the first and second year Rodgers was on the roster, totaling 38 touchdowns to 47 interceptions (12-20 record). If he was so NFL ready as you claim why didn't they move on after that second horrible season with Favre?
Why? Because he was Brett Farve. A future HOF QB. Were you alive then? You should remember. The same thing happened in S.F. With Montana and Young. Hack is no where in the situation you are trying to place him in.
Brady was not the #4 his rookie year, by years end. He had moved up to #2. What has Hack done? Still big #4, way to coddle!!!
I was thinking the same thing just yesterday. Although the Jets have very little to gain by playing Hack outside of finding out just how much more "fixin" he'll need, The FO (read Macc) has a lot more to lose if Hack shits the bed. The wildcard in this is Fitz. He has nothing to lose by taking a sack, then calling it a career in NY. He's gonna pocket his loot no matter what and today's performance won't really affect his FA standing either so what's to keep him from sticking it to the "organization that lost faith in him".
Throw him out there for the 2nd half and see what he can do. Not like this game means anything People are concerned with his confidence being crushed. If a poor half in a meaningless week 17 game ruins his confidence, then he is simply not cut out for the NFL
Yes its all political !!!! (putting off the inevitable 3 striker or Homerun with CH) Mac is on the run from abysmal performances by most of his draft and FAs Mac is already in the Doghouse by association with Shoddy Toddy even tho he didn't hand pick him So how is it gonna look if the Nittany lion QB DRAFTED IN ROUND 2 lands on his azzz The kids day will come but I am sure MM has lost tons of sleep over this one BTW agree he doesn't have to play the entire 4 quarters Maybe just a half
I agree, how much of this is MM realizing his ass is on the line for drafting this kid (as well as other decisions he has made), and now can't showcase him, because he was a reach, wasn't brought along during the last 6 months, and could get MM/Bowles canned!!
and this is why our g.m will strive to be mediocre. if the colts wanted blood for sucking,even though it was for a good cause, what will happen in this market?
You're smarter than this. Don't let your impatience, morbid curiosity or whatever get the better of your judgment. You know as well as I do, that if he played, the chances are he could get seriously injured. You also know that his fundamentals need overhauling, and the Jets weren't going to begin that process until after the last game. It's not worth the risk of his getting injured and then having to spend the offseason rehabbing rather than overhauling his fundamentals. This is even more true considering that Petty and Hack are the only two QBs we have under contract for next season. He was taken as a project, and if we have any hope of his developing, he needs to be handled in the right way. The other issue is the pounding he took behind PSU's horrible OL. He needs to get over that as well. If they played him Sunday behind our OL, they might as well just go ahead and cut him, because it would probably put the finishing nails in his coffin as a player. Until his fundamentals are overhauled, he would play like shit. I guarantee it. We're paying Fitz $12 freaking million dollars. Let him stand back there and get the shit beat out of him.
No they wouldn't, when Mac had already said that this was a "redshirt" year for Hack and that he wouldn't be playing. He wasn't drafted to play this year. Hack's fundamentals aren't fixed yet. He'd have no chance of playing well even if the OL didn't get him seriously injured. If Jets fans have to base their future hopes on a project QB who was never supposed to play this season, playing in the last meaningless game, then they have no hope, and might as well find another team to root for or something else to do with their time.
Woody Johnson is not Irsay. He might well decide to take a look at the Jets 3 drafts from 2015-2017 as a whole and give Maccagnan a mulligan if 2017 looks like it will produce results. If it's like the last two drafts, well Mac is getting fired anyway after 2017. Todd Bowles would be a casualty in a tank season. The only way he'd stick around is if he really had control of the locker room and had players focused. The problem is you generally wind up with a lack of focus when a team is losing every week and so Bowles would likely be out the door the same way Caldwell was in 2012. That's not strictly speaking fair, but there's no book on how to lose 14 games and still look like you are contributing much as head coach. The entire topic is kind of gross because watching the Jets bottom out won't be fun but they've been unable to put together an effective talent base doing what they're doing now and the only way out is to bottom out and get the QB. If we were able to quick fix and solve the problem, well that would already have happened given that it's the only real plan the Jets have consistently pursued. Obviously it doesn't work and it's getting really old for the fanbase.
Adam Schefter: "Team officials say Hackenberg regressed throughout the season" and "he couldn't hit the ocean." Welp
As someone who has very little faith in Hackenberg being much of anything, there is no point in playing him. Jets had a plan to develop him. That included a full redshirt year. No reason not to stick to the plan. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
