Shonn Greene thinks it may be time for a QB Change

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  1. Frenbar

    Frenbar Well-Known Member

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    No doubt Greene is a bad RB as far as running back go. That being said, Greene could probably take snaps at QB at be less terrible then Sanchez as far as QB's go.
     
  2. NYJFOREVER

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    Shonn Greene is right... A change should be bad at running back. He's so terrible as a feature back but I feel semi-confident in Greene's skills as a complimentary back to a true feature back. Greene is only good for 1-3 yards.
     
  3. PennyRoyal10

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    There's a better than not chance that Tebow could take Greene's job and do better. Sanchez could make that argument back at Greene.

    I'm half surprised that the media hasn't started a RB controversy with Tebow as well...
     
  4. chris5533

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    While sanchez is playing terrible.. If shonne greene actually said this, he has some balls. He been awful. He's 10 carry a game back if that. He's been a major reason in the decline of the offense. I don't know what the hell the coaching staff is waiting for in changing him out. I'd rather see anyone get carries than him at this point. 2 awful years as the primary back.
     
  5. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

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    Is the irony lost on anyone here?
     
  6. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Try reading the thread.
     
  7. Barcs

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    Just like I said. Greene came out today and said that his comments were taken out of context. What a surprise. He was told by the person interviewing him that it was going to be a feature article on him, but he was shocked when he actually saw the article that did nothing but claim Greene wants a change at QB. He may have mispoke, but anybody who listens to the interview in its entirety knows that's not what Greene meant by the comments. Quote mines? Yep. Out of context? Yep. Hack Journalists desperate for hits? Yep.

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/8636938/shonn-greene-new-york-jets-say-story

    The media is a bunch of fraudulent liars. They are angry the Jets aren't doing more with Tebow so they try to pit our locker room against one another. Fuck them, bunch of butthurt clowns. So far we have Greene refuting comments and Slauson saying his comments were from preseason. Shocker.

    Gee, all that's left is 2 anonymous sources. Yeah, I'm sure they are credible. /sarcasm

    The locker room is probably laughing their asses off about these terrible articles. Just because the media depicts us as having locker room issues, doesn't mean we actually do.

    Jets vs the world!
     
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  8. NYCKNP

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    In today's NFL, we live in a QB driven league where the QB is famous/infamous and the rest of the team are considered scrubs by the media. There are exceptions, but mostly it's a QB driven league. I'm not surprised that outside the tri state area, people mostly know Mark Sanchez, Tim Tebow, and Rex Ryan since they get most of the attention (for the wrong reasons, of course)


    In NY, all sports teams are under a microscope from the media's eyes just as the POTUS is under a microscope from the views of MSNBC/ Fox News. You're right about the part that the sports media has become propaganda to increase ratings. That's definitely true and truth doesn't matter to the media as they will do anything to get the attention they want. All I can say is if the Jets want to catch a break, start winning games. When they win games, the media will simmer down.
     
  9. BeastBeach

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    Refute the quote that I posted. I'm not saying you are wrong because I didn't listen to the entire interview.

    I'd just like to know how the quote I posted could possibly have been taken out of context. It appears the context is there.
     
  10. NYJets82

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    Correct.

    A more accurate description would be that Greene didn't expect his comments to be applied to any discussion of Sanchez/Tebow. He was making statements with the belief that they would be used to create a feature on him, not a commentary on the quarterback situation. Because of that, he didn't expect any comments not related to his own performance to be used in any article.

    That doesn't mean it was taken out of context.
     
  11. Barcs

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    :lol: I'm just saying what GREENE, you know, the guy who MADE THE COMMENTS said about the article. It doesn't matter what your quote says. The article said that Greene wants a change in QB and that's not what he was talking about. He may have worded that response the wrong way, but he addressed it today, and that is clearly NOT his position and not what he intended. The article was a load of crap, Greene was lied to about the purpose, which was strictly to bait Greene into a quotable they can single out and apply to whatever topic they want. You can never get full meaning by reading text. That's why you can't just go by some single friggin quote and think it sums up everything because the article says so. The only way to get full context is to listen to the entire interview. I was listening to this stuff on espn radio and heard the comments straight from Greene's mouth.
     
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  12. BeastBeach

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    So a guy can make comments using words that mean what the words mean and then come out a couple days later and just say that isn't what he meant and that means he was taken out of context?

    I'm afraid it doesn't work that way. What is the point of any interview if you can't trust what a guy says?

    Like I said, if you can put context on it then I'm more than willing to hear it. Until then, Green was referring to a QB change, because the quote I provided clearly is referring to that, and anything he says after the fact is called backpedaling.

    Obviously he feels bad now that his comments blew up in the media. That doesn't mean he didn't mean what he said at the time. He is saving face. Don't act like that is a new concept

    Next time I call my girlfriend a bitch and then regret it because she won't put out later I'm going to tell her I was taken out of context and see how that works out :breakdance:
     
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  13. Barcs

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    Here's an example.

    Before 2011 season:

    Hack reporter: "Rex, you predicted a superbowl last season and it didn't work out so well, are you going to do it again?"
    Rex: "Sure why not (laughs)"

    The article title: REX GUARANTEES SUPERBOWL!!!! then the article bases him about being cocky and arrogant and everything else. See where I'm coming from? When you actually pay attention to the stuff and watch press conferences instead of the media summing up the parts THEY like it becomes painfully obvious.
     
  14. BeastBeach

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    Nice example but unfortunately it has nothing to do with this situation. Just because somebody was taken out of context in history doesn't mean Shonn Greene was taken out of context. He wasn't.

    I'm not acting as if it has never happened.
     
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    Well you're not a Jets fan so you probably don't notice that this crap happens every few weeks. It's not just a one time thing. The media HATES the jets and will stop at nothing to make them appear in a negative light.

    You feel bad for Mark, but at the same time you want to win games. We’re not here to protect people’s feelings. If you want to win games, you’ve got to try something. If somebody’s not getting the job done, you see if somebody else can do it. It’s the same with coaching, or any position. You don’t mean to belittle someone or say ‘he sucks.’ That’s just the harsh reality

    I don't see anything in that quote that says he wants Tebow to start over Mark as that article implied. Obviously he feels bad for Sanchez because he is struggling. He didn't say that Mark wasn't getting the job done or that he should be benched, he was speaking in general terms. If something's not working, you try something else. If you really care, just listen to the actual interview and how about maybe the lines that come BEFORE the "you feel bad for Mark" part. If you don't understand how the media works, then don't even bother. I'm not gonna spoonfeed it to you. Greene was lied to about the purpose of the article and was baited into saying something like that. It's a joke that people even take that shit seriously after the lack of credibility the media has when reporting on the Jets.

    The Jets should just have a media blackout. Don't answer anything they say, don't have press conferences. Make them look like the fools they are and stop giving them material to quote mine.
     
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    You are spinning big time to make the quote NOT look like what he is actually saying. Do me a favor. Ask people to read the quote and ask them what it means.

    I'm not for name calling but you are being ridiculous.
     
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    Dude you haven't listened to a word I said. You can't just summarize an entire conversation with one friggin quote!!! That was the point. Listen to the interview, don't judge it off one quote. I don't care what a bunch of debbie downers think about a quote. Greene didn't choose his words wisely, and has since refuted it. That's really all that needs to be said, aside from the fact that the media in NY is very dishonest.

    I guess you thought that Jerry Jones talking about Glory holes was actually referring to porn or him sucking a stranger's wang. I mean go read that quote and tell me what it means. Go read that quote to other people and tell me what they think :lol: You're barking up the wrong tree.
     
  18. BeastBeach

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    This is a terrible example and shows exactly what I'm talking about. Who interpreted Jerry Jones' quote that way? Nobody. They laugh because it is obvious he didn't know what he was talking about.

    Who interpreted Greene's quotes to mean what they mean? Everyone who can read

    You're defending your team and thats ok as long as you know you're doing it.
     
  19. VanderbiltJets

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    Re-written to change their context:
    Talking about the Jets' recent struggles to win games, Running Back Shonn Greene expressed his frustration with the focus being placed on the Franchise QB with 3 playoff road wins on his resume':“Something’s got to change,” Greene told Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports. “When you get to the point where you’re 3-6, and losing and losing, a couple of guys are like, ‘Oh, what would happen [if Tebow played]? But guys at the same time have faith in Mark, so it’s kind of an up-and-down thing.

    Is the pressure fair? No. But it's necessary, according to Greene: “You feel bad for Mark, but at the same time you want to win games. We’re not here to protect people’s feelings."

    Should everyone be worried about their starting jobs? This running back thinks so, but he understands why the focus is placed on the QB: "If you want to win games, you’ve got to try something. If somebody’s not getting the job done, you see if somebody else can do it. It’s the same with coaching, or any position. You don’t mean to belittle someone or say ‘he sucks.’ That’s just the harsh reality.”

    you're welcome. now, imagine if I were an actual journalist who did the interview with Greene and had a lot more material to work with than what I just presented.
     
  20. BeastBeach

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    But according to Barcs the audio is actually available. I have been unable to locate that.

    I don't think he pieced together irrelevant quotes the way you make it seem. I was under the impression it was all one quote. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
     

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