Senior Bowl Thread

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  1. NCJetsfan

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    Pt. 2

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...ractice-roster

     
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    Van Noy would be a good pick if the Jets could get him in the 2nd round..(I don't know if that would be possible now)

    Every time I see that kid play I am impressed. He's always around the ball. Smart and with a high motor. He reminds me a little of Ninkovich in NE, not physically imposing, but reliable and I'll be damned if you are going to keep that kid away from the football.

    I am not concerned with Matthews in this senior bowl. With WRs game tape is more important than practices and workouts. His tape speaks for itself. I actually hope others share the authors opinion, maybe he will fall.

    I don't know if this is possible either, but It would be quite nice IMO if Idzik could trade back in rd 1/ up in rd 2 or both and end up with both Matthews and Van Noy.
     
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    Garoppolo is an interesting prospect who does have small hands. He's from Eastern Illinois, just like Tony Romo. I guess they like small hands there or they're very good at picking out the guys with small hands who are good QB's despite the limitation.

    Tony Romo's hands measure 8 and 7/8".
     
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    I wouldn't hold my breath on Idzik trading up, nor would I want him to. While I'd love to have both on the team, I wouldn't want to have to trade up to do it. If they could trade down in the 1st and get both, and another player or two to boot, then I'd love it.

    The more I read about Van Noy, the more exciting of a prospect he is. Supposedly he excels both vs the run and in coverage. He's at the top of my list for video viewing. As much as I want WR and TE upgrades, I wouldn't be unhappy at all, if the Jets traded down in the 1st and took him, then went WR/TE in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
     
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    I don't really want defense either with the early picks, but a defense built on Wilkerson, Richardson and Van Noy, 3 high-motor, tough as nails defenders in the front 7, would make this team a tough out for years and years.
     
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    Pretty cool.
     
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    Agreed. Add in a solid replacement for Harris in a year and continued growth/improvement from Davis and the Jets have the best front 7 in the NFL or at least one of the top 2-3. If the offense could then do anything at all, the team should be a perennial playoff team.
     
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    Id prefer not to have any part in Tajh Boyd
     
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    The idea of getting Garoppolo is pretty cool though.
     
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    I like that kid a lot.

    Surprised there is not much talk about him on here
     
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    Take it with a grain of salt, but Pat Kirwan is saying that Van Noy is impressing everyone and is probably moving into the bottom of the first round. He said that Derek Carr has been the best QB there and will probably go in the second half of the 1st round. He likes Jordan Matthews a lot and rates him as a 2nd round pick. He rates WR Josh Huff as a late 2nd/early 3rd round pick.
     
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    from NFL Draft Scout.com

     
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    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2014/1/22/5336196/senior-bowl-day-3-practice-report


    Senior Bowl Day 3 practice report

    By Dan Kadar @MockingTheDraft on Jan 22 2014, 8:09p

    Mobile, Ala.: If it wasn't official before the third day of Senior Bowl practices, it is now. Pittsburgh defensive tackle Aaron Donald is the best player in Mobile.

    For the third-straight practice, Donald was disruptive in one-on-one drills and full team drills. If there is a spot for Donald in the first round of the draft, it could be the Chicago Bears with the No. 14 pick.

    "Donald is a very explosive defensive tackle," Atlanta Falcons and North head coach Mike Smith said on Tuesday. "He's short in stature by NFL standards, but he's one of the more explosive guys we have on the North squad."

    Donald has been especially impressive against Baylor guard Cyril Richardson, who has done little to help his cause this week. Richardson's issues are with his stance. He keeps a narrow base and loses his power. When he's in space, he doesn't have the movement skills to stay with quick defenders.

    If there is a Donald doppelganger in the draft, it's Arizona State's Will Sutton. In Monday's weigh-ins, Sutton looked too big at 315 pounds. Expect him to drop some weight leading up to the draft. In Mobile, Sutton has flashed the fast hands that made him one of college football's most disruptive defensive linemen. But as much as his hands and quick feet have helped him, some offensive linemen can take advantage of it and drive him out of the play.

    Colorado State center Weston Richburg continued his strong week of practices without another standout showing on Wednesday. Richburg is lightning quick out of his snap stance and into his blocking stance. He uses that quickness to get leverage and make up for the power advantage defensive linemen have against him. He's been the only player who can block Donald this week.

    Mike Davis of Texas continued his excellent week of play on Wednesday. He's not the biggest name wide receiver on the South team, but Davis runs the best routes and has the quickest feet. Some team may get a steal on Davis late on the second day of the draft.

    Auburn cornerback Chris Davis made his name in college on special teams, but he's had a nice week of practice as well. In man coverage, he can get physical and move receivers around.

    During Wednesday's session, some of the small-school players stood out. On the South team, Georgia Southern cornerback Lavelle Westbrooks was rarely beaten in pass coverage situations. On one play in particular, Westbrooks worked BYU wide receiver Cody Hoffman up the left sideline on a vertical route and broke up the pass. Liberty cornerback Walt Aikens has also helped himself. For a bigger cornerback, he moves smoothly in his backpedal.

    Another small schooler who has helped himself is Princeton defensive tackle Caraun Reid. When he worked on the left side of the line in spirited 11-on-11drills Wednesday, he often won at the point of attack. He's had no trouble fitting in against ACC and SEC competition.

    On the injury front, Senior Bowl executive director Phil Savage announced that Oklahoma's Aaron Colvin will have surgery next week. Virginia defensive lineman Brent Urban is also out of the Senior Bowl with a sprained ankle.

    One of the replacement players to come in was Colorado State tight end Crockett Gilmore, who replaced the injured Marcel Jensen. In his first day of practice, Gilmore showed off good hands and solid route running. Gilmore isn't going to test well – he's a lumbering, build up speed runner. But for a team looking for a dependable No. 2 tight end who can block and do just enough in the passing game, Gilmore will be a nice Day 3 pick.

    The same can be said for Georgia's Arthur Lynch. He had another strong showing in blocking drills Wednesday and looked better on receiver plays. The Jaguars coaches were running a much more aggressive practice on Wednesday, and that suits Lynch's style. He was strong coming off the line of scrimmage, jolting a safety and creating separation underneath.

    Florida State linebacker Christian Jones had his best day of practice. In blocking drills, he was driving running backs into the coach acting as the quarterback. Teams will like Jones against the run and blitzing. He was exposed some when asked to drop back and cover a receiver in stride. That's something he'll need to continue working on throughout the draft process.

    BYU's Kyle Van Noy was another player who got beat at times in coverage drills. On one play Lynch pushed Van Noy out of the way to get open. Lynch will have to improve his ball handling. He doesn't always carry it high and Jones knocked the ball free on one play.

    If Donald has been the best player at Senior Bowl practices, Notre Dame offensive tackle Zack Martin has been the second best player. Martin showed his aggressive streak on Wednesday in offensive versus defensive linemen drills. On one play he turned Missouri's Michael Sam and drove him into the ground. With his play in Mobile, Martin may be establishing himself as a first-round pick. The question is whether a team will pull the trigger on him as a tackle or if he'll be viewed as a guard.
     
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    It's the Bleacher Report, so take it with a grain of salt, but neither Walter Football nor the BigBlue Giants site evidently covered the practice today.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...uting-notes-observations-from-weeks-practices

    2014 Senior Bowl: Draft Scouting Notes & Observations from Week's Practices

    In the last padded practice of the week at the Senior Bowl, many players looked as if they were a bit more comfortable and moved past the jitters that plagued them on Monday and Tuesday.

    On a much less windy but relatively chilly day at Ladd-Peebles Stadium, quarterbacks from both squads threw with more confidence, accuracy and rapport with the majority of their wideouts while many of the prospects who impressed early continued to do so.

    Trapasso's Top Senior Bowl Performers On Day 3 Name Position School Team
    Stanley Jean-Baptiste CB Nebraska North
    Josh Huff WR Oregon North
    Pierre Desir CB Lindenwood North
    Dee Ford OLB Auburn South
    David Fales QB San Jose State South
    Aaron Donald DL Pittsburgh North
    Chris Borland LB Wisconsin North
    Christian Jones LB Florida State South

    For the most part, the players in Mobile, Ala., mirrored much of what they put on film during their respective collegiate careers.

    Even if a kid was extraordinarily better or much worse than he was in-season, it won't have a significant effect on the way he's viewed by NFL scouts, general managers and coaches.

    However, participating in the Senior Bowl puts these prospects in an unfamiliar situation with new teammates and pits them against some of the best competition in the country.

    A "big" week can certainly benefit—albeit slightly—the way a player is viewed.

    On Sunday, a scout for an AFC team told me they have all the prospect reports "in the system" already, but the Senior Bowl is "icing on the cake" and that you can learn something about a player when he's "out of his comfort zone."

    On the North team, with an interesting group of receivers—Wake Forest's Michael Campanaro, Wyoming's Robert Herron, Wisconsin's Jared Abbrederis, Northwestern's converted quarterback Kain Colter, UCLA's Shaquelle Evans and Jeff Janis from Saginaw Valley State—Oregon's Josh Huff has proven to be the most dynamic, well-rounded pass-catcher.

    He measured in at 5'11'' and 200 pounds and continued a strong week with a rather impressive practice on Wednesday.

    Huff made a diving touchdown catch in a one-on-one drill and made a tremendous high-pointing grab for a score against Lindenwood's Pierre Desir, who's been one of the most fundamentally sound corners in Mobile.

    On a play-action bootleg bomb from Miami quarterback Stephen Morris, Huff dove for the slightly overthrown pass and nearly came down with his third big grab of the session.

    He was utilized on a few reverses and never disappointed in terms of burst, fluidity and overall speed.

    The 2014 receiver class is absolutely loaded, but Huff hasn't done anything to hurt his stock this week, that's for sure.

    To me, there's a lot of DeSean Jackson to his game.

    See for yourself.

    He very well may represent tremendous value in the middle of the draft.

    Although Huff's not a big receiver, he's fast, can beat the press with exceptional athleticism and has the leaping ability to play on the outside if need be.

    Logan Thomas Continues to Improve; Quarterbacks Have Their Best Days

    There's been a lot of buzz and difference of opinion on Virginia Tech's Logan Thomas in Mobile, but the 6'5'', 250-pound mountain of a quarterback definitely improved as the week progressed.

    On Wednesday, he was more decisive and accurate and had only one egregious overthrow on a pass into the flat intended for the always-open Mike Campanaro.

    However, even after Thomas makes a variety of "wow" plays with his arm, he'll make a major mistake later on.

    At the end of what would have been categorized as a day in which he showed more refinement than ever, the longtime Virginia Tech signal-caller finished practice by forcing a pass over the middle that was intercepted by Wisconsin linebacker Chris Borland.

    Following practice, Thomas told me it was a "miscommunication" and "two receivers ran the same route."

    It's worth noting that he's been working with famed quarterback guru George Whitfield during the predraft process. If Thomas' footwork improves, his accuracy should get better. It'll just come down to the mental side of the playing the quarterback position—all the physical attributes are there.

    Tajh Boyd's somewhat weak arm was noticeable during Monday and especially Tuesday's windy practice, but on Wednesday, the Clemson quarterback was sharp.

    Instead of checking down in seven-on-seven and 11-on-11 like he had done earlier, Boyd made a handful of passes down the seam with much more zip than what we saw in the first three sessions.

    He seems to be a rhythm passer—when he gets into a groove he can be very accurate and make a variety of well-placed, anticipatory throws.

    After practice, San Jose State quarterback David Fales told me he was "really sick" for the first few days in Mobile but felt much better this afternoon, and it showed.

    Although he doesn't get a ton of trunk rotation or push from his lower half when delivering the ball, he does have a decently strong arm.

    While Fales did miss a wide-open Kevin Norwood down the middle of the field on a flea-flicker, he exhibited desired pocket movement, release and accuracy on Wednesday.

    Through all of this, though, Derek Carr ended the week as the best quarterback in Mobile, without question. He threw with the most velocity of any of the signal-callers in attendance and was the most consistent from decision-making and ball-placement perspectives.

    Cornerbacks of All Sizes Shine
    Nebraska's Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Florida's Jaylen Watkins, Auburn's Chris Davis and Pierre Desir were the most impressive cornerbacks in Mobile over the past three days and all turned in sound performances on Wednesday.

    At slightly above 6'2'' and 215 pounds with collegiate experience at wide receiver, Jean-Baptiste created plenty of buzz in Mobile due to the fact that he can be, rather easily, likened to Richard Sherman of the Seattle Seahawks.

    In press man coverage, Jean-Baptiste dominated the North receivers all practice.

    He was tested on a few fades to the corner of the end zone, too—not happening.

    When talking with Campanaro after practice he told me Jean-Baptiste was his most difficult matchup of the week because "he's so long and physical."

    The 5'11'', 194-pound Watkins glued to Vanderbilt's Jordan Matthews for the early portion of practice and received praise from Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Gus Bradley on more than one occasion. He showed the ability to react quickly to wideouts' breaks.

    Unfortunately, Watkins tweaked his ankle and wasn't able to finish.

    The similarly sized Davis was extremely physical with receivers on Wednesday, and some of his "grabbiness" might have drawn pass interference or holding flags. On a long-shot play down the sideline to Matthews, Davis got his hands tangled with the Vandy wideout to force an incompletion as both went to the turf.

    Desir has proven to be one of the big risers this week, and his effort in the final padded practice was a perfect way to go out for the FCS prospect.

    During the one-on-one session, he actually put Fresno State tight end Marcel Jensen to the ground with his press at the line of scrimmage.

    Desir did get beat on a double move by Kain Colter down the sideline, but he demonstrated nice hand work on a last-second pass breakup on a nicely thrown ball to the back corner of the end zone from Boyd to Campanaro and nearly snagged an interception on the next play.

    Odds and Ends

    Baylor offensive tackle Cyril Richardson, a 2013 All-American, will have nightmares about Pittsburgh's Aaron Donald for a while after this week. As per usual, Donald was able to beat the monstrous and powerful guard off the ball during drills and in 11-on-11 work. When Richardson can get his hands on you, it's over, but he's not a lateral mover. Then again, Richardson will remain a top guard in the 2014 class because he's so massive and can really maul in the run game.

    Eastern Illinois quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo had a sound yet unspectacular week, but his incredibly quick release really stood out in Mobile. On Wednesday, there were a few instances in which he couldn't find anyone in seven-on-seven and was late on a few throws. His compact delivery likely opened some eyes.

    Miami offensive tackle Seantrel Henderson, a former 5-star recruit, was having a fine week until Wednesday's practice. He was beaten by bendy speed rusher Michael Sam of Missouri and even Stanford's Trent Murphy. The size—nearly 6'7'' and 331 pounds—is there, but the desire might not be.

    Christian Jones of Florida State and Auburn's Dee Ford continued their havoc-wreaking ways in the final padded session. Jones played both inside and outside linebacker for the Seminoles, but he flashed a variety of effective pass-rushing moves all week and really got the best of the South's offensive tackles. Ford made Virginia's Morgan Moses look silly on one play, as he dipped around him for an easy "sack." Ford may be a "tweener" to some NFL teams, but the off-the-ball burst is undoubtedly there.
     
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    From the parts of the practice I watched yesterday, Aaron Donald was unstoppable.

    He consistently beat his man in the 1-on-1 drills with an array of moves.
     
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    Not sure. The kid from Michigan, Michael Schofield, was stonewalling everyone in that drill. Maybe it was him.
     
  18. Yeah he was playing G earlier in the week & struggled badly but recovered nicely at RT yesterday.I don't think he's anything special though.He projects as an average starting RT & thats after a year or so on the bench.

    None of the OL have impressed me outside of Zach Martin who likely has catapulted himself into a top 12 pick.

    Cyril Richardson has really disappointed. I thought he had some impressive film & could really provide a clean pocket.But he hasnt blocked anybody all week
     
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    Yeah Martin has been terrific. the OG from Tennessee State looked pretty good Tuesday and Wednesday until he went up against Donald.
     
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    http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlreport.htm


     

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