seeing eli gets his 2nd buoys my confidence in Mark

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  1. Hooterdawg

    Hooterdawg New Member

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    Sanchez doesn't have the bloodlines of Eli. Eli Manning has the same DNA ability as his older brother. A confident Eli has become very dangerous.
     
  2. Royal Tee

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    You guys are giving dopey cunningham waaay too much fukin credit...

    acting like he carried the team in every game and his defense sucked balls...
    truth is,
    Brady is a far better QB but he has the worst defense in the NFL...yet
    He actually carried his team as far as it could go until he met a D thjat could stop him.

    Eli is making plays here and there but is far from actually carrying them on his own.
    Just look at the difference when the GIANS D was MIA...

    Guys are crazy.
     
  3. KWJetsFan

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    I hear that.
    My wife is a lifelong, diehard Pats fan (34 years old). She is very knowledgable and hardcore. I think I was more upset tonight because she was able to blow it off so easy. She said, "It sucks, but we won 3 and seem to make the Super Bowl most years."

    I hated that. I'm a Yankees fan, and I hate to say it, but I feel the same when it comes to them. If the Yanks don't win, I don't get that mad because I've seen them win so many times.

    F'n hell, I wish I could be like that with the Jets. I would trade a few Yanks WS for one chance to see the Jets play in the SB (and that is not a good thing).
     
  4. ANJI

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    Yeah I remember that game.

    Mark Threw for about 300 yards, completing 30 of 40 passes, no turn overs and controlling the ball for 37 minutes. :rofl2::rofl2:

    What depths do you have to go to, to make this below average QB stand up??
     
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  5. Don

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    That's correct and he will never have the arm or the vision that Manning has either.
     
  6. TheGreenCantona

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    I knew this was coming, Elis turnaround being the last glimmer of hope for us.

    Depressing stat that in some peculiar way is sympatethic to sanchez:

    of the 25 QBs picked top-5 since 1990, only 2 have won a super bowl and both are named mannnig, ie

    sanchez always had a very low probabiliy of success, but again look at ELI, he can still bring jets to the promise land.
     
  7. since83

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    I think you bumped your effin head. sanchez will never be in that category regardless of how you try to compare the first three years. There's a difference between a boxer and a fighter. They both are professionals. The fighter has the killer instinct the boxer will never have. I say this as a die hard jets fan and realist. Sanchez can't fight. Eli has a killer instinct.
     
  8. cval

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    The point is there is hope. To give up on 3rd year QB is stupid unless he has showed no signs..... Lets also not be quick to put Sanchez in the HOF he has to play better next year period.
     
  9. ace_o_spades

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    Blue font makes you a tool and your posts invalid. Why the fuck do you even bother using it? Do you want to draw attention to your terrible posts that badly?
     
  10. Biggs

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    There is hope but the realist in my sees that pass in the pocket to Manningham thrown by Mark batted down at the line of scrimage. You can't teach height and a quick release.
     
  11. Attackett

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    Did all you guys that are saying Sanchez hasn't shown anything, he has no fight he can never do what Eli has done just start watching football last year? you guys just sound like bitter old housewives that have no fucking clue about reality.

    Fact is Sanchez has shown glimpses of greatness and another fact is he regressed as well as the entire team last year. Can he get it back and turn those glimpses into full time greatness? I have no fucking clue but neither do any of you that says he can't. He has shown more potential then Eli did after both of their 3rd years, that is a fact. That doesn't mean he will turn it around like Eli has but it does mean you don't give up on a 3rd year Qb that has taken his team to two AFCCGs and played well enough to win in each of them. Just last year in Eli's 7th season he led the league in INTS.

    God I hate Jets fans, what a pathetic bunch.
     
  12. Endlessly Counting

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    Again, we are falling into the trap of comparing a 3rd years Sanchez to an 8th year Manning

    Manning really didn't start to make these great plays until the SuperBowl run of 2007, at the end of his 4th year
     
  13. Biggs

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    Again you are comparing Sanchez upside with Eli's. Eli was the top prospect in a QB class that included Rivers and Rothlisberger. Sanchez was the No. 2 prospect in a class that included Stafford and Freeman.

    Eli is bigger, has a better arm a quicker release and had the coaching to be a pro QB since the time he was a child. More upside. Eli made great plays early in his career, he also made a ton of mistakes. Over all he has a better skill set than Sanchez.
     
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  14. BleedJetsGreen1981

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    I say this all the time about the Yankees. Been a die-hard fan since '78, waited eighteen long years till they won it all in '96. Then three more in four years. I would happily trade the next Yanks World Series for a Jets Superbowl.

    Been waiting since '81 for a Jets Superbowl appearance almost twice as long as the time I waited for the Yanks to get to the promised land. Of course I want to the Jets win the Superbowl but, just to at least make it there, to finally get over this epic AFCC game that has been eluding us forever.
     
  15. Justone

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    I don't even know where to begin with you guys so i'm going to keep it as short as I can.

    90% of you guys are insane. I can't believe how fast everyone here forgot what that "below average qb" has done for this below average franchise. I always thought Jets fans were better than this but clearly that is not the case.

    Mark Sanchez is 25 years old. Should of been a second year qb last year and only had one year of snaps in college before leaving early.
    He has been to 2 AFC championship games. Largely due to his play in the postseason and the loses had nothing to do with him.
    He has proven he can perform at the end of football games.
    Last year it was the numbers that weren't there but the games he won were.
    This year its his numbers were better but he didn't win. Make up your mind.
    Stop looking at QBs with the manning/brady goggles on it is getting old and like i said i thought jets fans were better than that.

    I understand sanchez didn't look good towards the end of the season but does it really make sense to bash the guy the way the rest of the country has bashed him? The rest of the country that doesn't watch him just hears what the idiotic media has to say about him.

    Give the kid sometime without having the NY and national media get in his head more than they already have. It spreads to the team and the fan base. I wish someone would just have an original thought once in a while and actually have an educated opinion in which they look at peoples full body of work.

    If you are a real jets fan you would realize we have seen more promise the last 3 years then ever so quite your complaining. You would think he is the only young QB that is struggling...
     
  16. Levenhagen

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    well it definitely helps that eli made such a comeback

    he was just as bad as sanchez until he won the superbowl
    so it keeps our hopes ups, lets wait and see now
     
  17. jilozzo

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    no need to throw too much fuel on this fire but those with the rose colored glasses for our QB need to take a step back....

    manning is a better QB period - was better coming out of school and is obviously better now. throw ur early year stats in the trash. its about making the throws, pressuring the D, and having guys around u make the plays.

    sanchez cannot make all the throws consistently. even without pressure his throws are too hard, too soft, behind, etc. if he were a baseball pitcher they would call him wild in the strikezone. - and because of that he doesn't pressure the D. of course some would say it was our BS passing game that played a major role in what sanchez looked like last year. i am not so sure - i think BS has a decent passing attack on paper but it just wasn't executed either by the entire O, the qb, or a combo of both.

    now can u win with a qb like that. of course u can. But the team around the QB has to be a top 5 Def and running game - both of which the jets do not have. and of course they to be disciplined enough not to beat themselves.

    so until the jets find the right tonic for MS its a moot point comparing him to anyone.
     
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  18. Attackett

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    Its easy to say that Eli was some super QB prospect now that he has become an elite QB but the reality is he wasn't. Many believe he was the top pick because of his name and his first 3 years atleast he didn't look like he would ever become an elite QB.

    As early as before this season there were still questions of whether or not he would become an elite QB, he was extremely innacurate, there were questions about his persona and on and on.

    Sanchez can still become an elite Qb, he won't just because Eli did after struggling his first 3 years but the skill set is thereto become that type of QB.
     
  19. Big Blocker

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    Eli is a different person than Sanchez. There is no predictive value comparing Eli to Sanchez.

    The fact that Eli played on a team that won an SB for a second time means nothing about Sanchez. He still has to improve his performance this coming year or the Jets will probably go another route. Whether he does, and the Jets do, has everything to do with what Sanchez does next year and nothing to do with what Eli did.
     
  20. fozzi58

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    Good Post.

    You might want to consider posting here more often...
     

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