Sean Payton

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Very eloquent especially when you realize the BYU kid is as fragile as an egg
     
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  2. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    You look at the stats comp percentage and yards you would have thought Joe was the winning QB especially how some here value the 300yd game so much.
     
  3. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Sure ..if only our GM decides to admit he was mistaken about Flacco and z Wilson ...good luck with that!

    Joe D will be a good example of the saying "Prides Fall"
     
  4. Mogriffjr

    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

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    Meh it’s football. Players get hurt. Dak likely hurt again…let’s get Zach back and see how it goes.
     
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  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Well-Known Member

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    Let's stop making believe that Flacco is a real #2 QB. He is a mentor at this stage of his career - end of story.

    That being said, plenty of blame to go around between dropped passes, fumbles, bad punts, and horrid kicking.

    I can't put those things on Saleh. The Coach can put guys in position to make plays, but the players still have to execute.

    We actually checked Lamar pretty well, so give the staff credit for that.
     
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  6. Noam

    Noam Well-Known Member

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    If you have no patience and want to fire the coach of one of the youngest teams in the league after 1 game in year 2 of the rebuild are you willing to deal with the consequences?
    1. You have to hire a new CS and implement new systems. Which stunts the development of all our young players.
    2. You will not be able to hire a competent CS after firing a well respected CS after 18 games.
    3. You will need new players for the new schemes and new CS that means starting over with a new rebuild next year with new players and most likely a 3-4 system requiring a new defensive line and LBs.

    If you want to guarantee another decade of losing there is no better way to do it than firing everyone. There is no guarantee that their slow methodical long term rebuild will work but the process is sound and it gives us a chance. Having patience is hard after so many awful years but making changes because one lacks patience is a sure recipe for disaster.
     
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  7. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Garoppolo, eh. I mean if we hire Payton, and Payton wants Garoppolo, then Garoppolo it is. I'd take Payton in a nanosecond. Of course, he'd only come here if given total control, but it would be a no-brainer to sack Douglas and turn the team over to him. Of course, that's why it'll never happen.
     
  8. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    So 1% higher completion rate and 33 ypg more than Wilson in his rookie year is what you are shooting for? Sorry but I'd like quite a bit more
     
  9. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    I didn't mention Flacco or compare his stats to Lamar, I addressed the posters looking to pay $300M to a QB that put up the stats I posted. He did not impress me at all to want the Jets to pay him that kind of money
     
  10. PJ4Ever

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    McCarthy is a bad football coach
     
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  11. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps not a Bellichek yes

    But a better "bad choice" than the guy we have now

    Pretty frustrating
     
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  12. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Hold on my friend...Look what they did at the other Bottom Feeder Team >>>>the Browns

    As I have posted 100 times, the GM fired Kitchens mid season and this has happened in other franchises if If I am not mistaken. So yeah ..the rest of the Season might be toast or you might win some games. Gun to my head the current CS I do believe will lose more games...so why not start the process now no matter how disgusting a prospect...sigh

    The replacement was Stefanski..Do you like the Results on the field for Cleveland ??? So these controversial moves DO pay off..the Raider had to replace Gruden and I beleive McDaniels will now help them out

    Perhaps I jump into my decisions and Posts prematurely and Posters critics get on me for slamming ZW without seeing how he does after his recovery from injury

    But in life we all have a Track record and those two aforementioned is hardly inspiring...There is no evidence RS is a good Coach in games he has W or L....we have a #2 draft pick that I was once all in on but now can't even see the field and his judgement in games is terrrible

    Is your Gut a good guide ?? I have noticed mine is correct 75% of the time

    Can we at least share the uber Frustration with this terrible accused Team??????
     
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  13. cval

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    Understood
     
  14. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Even if we set aside his entire resume (pro bowls, MVP) and just look at yesterday’s game, idk why we would… but even if we did…

    yesterday he threw 3 TDS on the road and closed it out before the 4th quarter
     
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  15. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know if he’s worth $300 million, but how does Lamar Jackson not impress you? He’s 38-12 as a starter, averages 6 yards per carry, and throws almost 3:1 touchdowns to interceptions…
     
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    Get the ban hammer out for even suggesting Jimmy G lol
     
  17. Jeff M

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    Lamar would have taken the $250 M, the issue was guarantees, not amount.
     
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  18. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    His mother is his agent as well, which is unconventional, and likely causing some challenges in the renegotiation. Hopefully it carries onto the offseason and he can sign here though
     
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  19. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Did he look impressive year 2 and 3? Yes
    Year 4 rush yards were down, 16 TDs to 13 INTs so looked very good but not great
    Yesterday did not see a QB that impressed me to want the Jets to sign him to a fully guaranteed contract and certainly not for $300m
     
  20. NYJ1970

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    Sarcasm will get you nowhere.....
     

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