If no NFL coaches would want to teach Mariota that, then they are a bunch of lazy, clueless dumbasses who all ought to be fired. If true, they're so stupid they can't see the forest for the trees. You have a great QB prospect who has everything you look for in a franchise QB, and you're going to pass on him because he hasn't run a huddle or taken a snap from under center? Do you realize how farking stupid that sounds? Those have to be the two easiest things to learn. I suppose they'd rather try to teach someone like Geno with little football IQ to read Ds and go through his progressions (two of the more difficult aspects of the position)? I had a lot of respect for Arians, and wanted him as our HC last season, but based on his comments about spread QBs, he lost a LOT of my respect, and I'm glad he's NOT our HC.
NFL is less patient then ever. More pressure to win early. I think that plays a huge role in the Spread QB argument.
You can't teach stupid. You can't teach smarts. You can teach taking snaps from under center and 3-5-7 drops. _
I agree that that is true to a large extent, but is that a mature, rational or prudent way to think or act?
Last time i checked Geno had very similar success in a college system similar to that of Oregon. He had all the intangibles coming out: arm strength, speed (40 time only a couple 100ths of a second slower than mariota), size. Experts raved about him being a "film rat". He just needed to be "coached up a bit" and taught to take snaps from under center and 3-5-7 drops. We see how that turned out. I'm just seeing a bunch of the same with Mariota. The difference being that the public loves Mariota. He is a feel good story and an enigma of recent heisman qb's.
The glaring difference you're missing is that Mariota's football IQ is in another time zone or zip code higher than Genos, and maybe 2-3 higher. Geno also threw a ton of shovel passes and short passes in college. Mariota didn't. I don't think the two offenses are very similar at all.
They are both largely one read spread offenses predicated on wr's getting open based on blown coverage. He even admitted to never calling a play in college. I'm not quite sure how you're evaluating his football IQ, or going as far to say that he has 2-3 times the IQ having never played in the NFL.
If you watched both of them in college and didn't read scouting reports you'd see that they were playing a completely different game. Not even close. _
Those should have been credited as handoffs with 80 yard TD runs by Austin and Bailey. Instead Geno was credited with 1000 yards and 20 TDs. _
We are talking about the intangibles and style of offense he played in. His measurable are very similar to Geno. He played in a very similar offense with similar weapons. The question is how do we know he has such a great football IQ?
At the end of the day, you have to look at each and every factor. He may get it, he may not - that has yet to be seen. I remember a time when you said Mariota will master the offense by yr 2, how can he do that if he has to learn the basics also? That's a lot of faith to put in someone. I never said it was fair - I think the Jets have time to develop Mariota if they choose to. This regime isn't under fire. Depends on team and situations too I believe. I think if you got a plan for Mariota, you go with it. I acquire Mariota, I sit him down - I get him up to speed as much as possible - I look to acquire talent to fit what Mariota does best and he should thrive in his 2nd year. I think those that are comparing him to Geno Smith are full of shit - this kid has something special, but it's all about putting him in a situation to succeed. I won't lie to you when I say, I am nervous of the spread QB.
He'll learn the basics by the end of his first training camp, get comfortable with the offense by the end if year 1 and master it by the end of year 2. I have faith. _
The Jets do have time. Having a detailed plan is crucial. That may be where some teams go awry with developing players. Most NFL coaches probably aren't trained as educators and may not know how to break the components down into incremental steps in an orderly progression. They may try to force the player to learn things all at once. I hope Patullo, or whatever the Jets' QB coach name is does know how to do that. As much as I like Mariota and as confident as I am in him, I'm nervous too. I don't know him personally. I can't see him busting at all. I think his floor is probably a better version of Alex Smith. I'll take that, but hope he can be closer to Steve Young. IMO, he's just got too much talent and potential to pass up and not take a chance on.
