Sanchez had a poor game. You can barely spot any team in the league 14 points and expect to win, let alone a good team like NOS. Sanchez made rookie mistakes and this was bound to happen so I am not surprised. In a way, I am almost glad he got this out of his system now because I do think he handled himself well in the after game presser and I do think he will be ready on next Monday night when we go up against Miami. I don't have a major problem with Shotty's play calling. NO's D played tough. Shotty is not the reason the Jets lost their first game. I look at the upside, we have 4 games coming up that we should be able to win as long as we play with good execution and the same intensity we have showed thus far. At the half way part of the season I think we can be 7-1 or at the worst 6-2. That won't be too bad all things considered.
I totally agree that we have to fire up our running game. IMO, the Offensive line played it's worst game of the season yesterday. They are way better than the way they played.
I had no problem with that call. This is an aggressive team, and that was an aggressive call. We all wanted a team that played that way, and the thing with being an aggressive team is that the risk factor is high in giving the other team a big play. Sanchez simply held the ball too long there. The second he felt the pressure he should have thrown it away.
I was hoping that we would be an aggressive defensive team and allow the offense to play it conservative. Allow our defense, special teams and running game set the table for the youngster. Hell - even the most veteran of QB's aren't usually given the responsibility of passing out of their own end zone.
I don't think it was even that I think he was trying to make a play. He wanted to turn the tide after the interception and get the ball rolling again. So he held it too long. He has to realize he can't make up for that int from his own endzone, and he has to just play smart down there.
I'm officially on the Schotty sucks bandwagon. It didn't cost us the game yesterday by any means, but like biggs said, the guy is a pussy and, in my opinion, just a bad playcaller. I can't believe he gets all this HC talk when since he arrived, the only respectable offense he's put on the field was last year's. And I think we all saw how well that ended.
Jones didn't have a run for more than 3 yards in the first half and was stopped for no gain at least twice. He got a couple of runs going in the second half. He also had a series in the third quarter where he got the ball 3 straight times for 4, 4 and 0 to force a punt. Our OL doesn't match up well to a D sitting on the run because we don't have a TE who can match up and block a safety. Jones is not a power back and waits forever for his blocks to set up. This is not a winning formula for establishing the run.
You have a right to your opinion, but I will not pin yesterday on Schotty at all. While I won't agree with every call, Schotty is not the reason we lost the game. I am glad he is coaching this team and you have to understand that we are still trying to put our Rookie QB in situations to succeed. I think Shott is a very good OC and I am gald he is here and I do not want to see him leave, but I know he will someday. As far as last year's offense: Bottom line: Favre tanked the season for us. There is nothing else to say besides that. I am glad Favre is not here and I am glad the Rookie is in.
Schotty is a genius through the first 3 games, we lose 1 game because of some rookie mistakes and he sucks?? Is this how it goes on TGG?? Good lord you need to shut up. Yes he made some bad calls, but the protection broke down so quickly how could you tell anyway. I am not on this bandwagon. Our first drive was going great, he put the ball in the kids hand and we were almost there. Not Schotty's fault. Sanchez get sacked/fumlbed in the end zone. Not Schotty's fault. After that he did get a little conservative but that was to protect his QB, we don't want to destroy all his confidence on 1 GAME.
Schotty has been far from great, although it wasn't all him yesterday. I think he needs to sit down with his rookie and work out the problem staring down receivers. I know you will probably blame the QB coach, but Schotty is in QB meetings all the time, he is a former QB coach and he has taken a hands-on approach to this from what he says in his pressers. I'm not ready to bash Schotty at this point, he did some things that surprised me in a good way yesterday. He sometimes out-thinks himself and the opposing defense capitalizes, but he definitely should have called some higher-percentage plays during that game and didn't.
I would be targeting our 3 playmakers in crucial moments: Cotchery, Keller, and Leon. You have 3 excellent players that can make something happen. Figure out how to use them so something happens.
Schotty wasn't a genius through the first 3 games. A genius on offense blows out the opposition. I think he's been above average, but a couple of dropped INTs here and there in previous games and the Jets are 2-2 or 1-3, the OC looks like a moron and the rookie QB looks like a bust. It's not just TGG. This is how the NYJets fanbase has been for years on tha intarwebs. Luck can make an above-average OC look excellent.
No I know, I wasn't either. I'm just saying this is the guy's 4th year here and has yet to impress. And I'd put more blame on Schotty than Favre for last year.. he had 5 weeks to adjust his playcalling and instead he just sat on his hands as the offense took a nosedive.
I wasn't calling him a genius, I was alluding to the fact that not one complaint was posted until yesterdays loss. Any moron can pick out the negatives yesterday but I like to think positive. Isn't that the point of being a fan in the first place? If everyone just bitches and moans about the Jets what's the point? I know for a fact I'm a huge Jet "homer", but that's because they're my team. As soon as one loss appears it seems the fan base goes crazy. Schotty has been fine, if Mark connected will Keller in the end zone, by checking Sharper off it's be a whole different game. Schotty can't control that.
I've made plenty of complaints about Schotty. But only as objective criticism, not bashing like this thread seems to be. He's been far from perfect in the first 4 weeks.
Well, in 4 years, he was a rookie OC with a rookie HC. The HC had, IMO, some tighter reins on Schotty than now. This year he is with a new HC. Again, there will be ajustments. Other factors: Schott had to adjust to the strengths of Pennington, Clemens, Favre, and now, Sanchez. That is not easy; I don't care who you are trying to coach. As far as last year, how could have Schotty controlled some of the horrible decisions Favre made to put us in the playoffs. The best way would have been to bench Favre; like that was going to ever happen. Either way, everything worked out great for the long run. We folded down the stretch, Favre isn't here anymore, Mantilda is gone, we now have a very good to great D, Rex is here, and we have a QB who's future looks bright. Trust me, it will get better. Yesterday was a bump in the road. Nothing more and nothing less.
Funny how that drop off in play calling at the end of the season coincides with Brett's arm going south. Nah, must have been Schotty's play calling. Had nothing to do with a torn bicep.... This is the same shit everyone was spewing about when Hackett went to the Herm Edwards Run-Draw-Draw play calling. Wait - Chad played with a bum shoulder in 2004 when "Laces Out" O'Brien missed 2 field goals against Pitt. Granted Hackett was not that great a signal caller. Then Heimerdinger comes in - who had Steve McNair throwing all over the place, and b/u Billy Volek throwing three consecutive 400+ yard games when McNair went down (2003? 2004?). And what to the fans do? "Heimerdinger sucks - he his play calling is terrible" I wonder if his play calling has anything to do with 3rd stringer Brooks Bollinger playing? The fans will run Schotty out of town and then he will come back to bite us in the ass. Are there better OC's out there? Yeah -> although I think a Coordinator is only as good as the people he is coordinating.
You're right. Because a smart play-caller usually gives up on the running game while it is working and gives 40 passing attempts in a game to a QB with a torn biceps. Favre was terrible at the end of last season. The play-calling was worse.
I would like to start by saying that I think we will make the playoffs this year, and as I watched the game yesterday, I was furious with the fact that we were down so early in the game and the turnovers that took place, however we overcame those turnovers and we had a chance to either tie or win this game, after we settled down, we moved the ball well on the ground even scoring and I assumed we were going to pound the Saints into submission. To my surprise however our OC went away from the run and started passing again, I don't like him and never did but never bashed him because last year I thought our DC was the problem and he took alot of the heat away from BS. I know many people blame our OL and TJ, rightly so and they might have a point, but I think the offensive scheme we play under BS is the root of the problem and not the players, and if the other team does not make mistakes and it's left to our offense we cannot sustain many offensive drives. I hope I'm wrong but I forsee our offense being a liability this year, I can deal with rookie mistakes but this scheme and the players executing it are not new to it.
