False. He's never really been "good". He was generally dreadful in his rookie season, but it WAS his rookie season, so we all understood. Then, he was mediocre in year 2, a little worse in year 3 (including playing his worst football of the season down the stretch), and absolutely horrible in year 4. Stop hallucinating.
The playoff appearances and competent play in the playoffs early in his career gave him a lot of leeway. He's burned that up by now. At this point in his career, drafting a 2nd-round pick to push him is completely fair. If Sanchez wins the job and does well with it, great. If he doesn't, well, we have an alternative. I agree the offense fell apart around him. Mark was a part of the problem, he wasn't the whole problem. Between the lack of coaching and lack of talent, nobody was on the same page with Sanchez last season, with the exception of Kerley at times. I won't have an issue if Mark Sanchez starts opening day if he's the better quarterback. I certainly won't boo him when he's introduced. I'd cheer him because I want him to succeed, and I still think there's an outside chance that can happen. But both sides don't need to exaggerate. Mark Sanchez isn't one of the worst quarterbacks in NFL history. He also didn't have 3 good seasons out of 4. 2009: He had a bad season, but it was excused because he was a rookie. Then, the long playoff run gave you some hope going forward 2010: He played average football (statistically below average). Some games, he looked like he would be a good NFL quarterback. Other games, he was not good. But as a 2nd year quarterback, this was a big improvement. Then he played well in the playoffs again, and you had high hopes heading into year 3. 2011: He took a tiny step back from 2009. Turnovers were way up, but the talent around him had declined a lot, and he had to shoulder a much bigger load. In year 3, you hoped he was ready for it but it was more of a one step forward, two steps back kind of deal. Then he closed the season disastrously, giving it the appearance of him declining more than he actually did. 2012: He started the season playing decently, but he and the offense clearly weren't on the same page. As the weeks go on, he loses more and more confidence and gets worse and worse as a quarterback where he's clearly one of the worst in the NFL again. So to recap, for 2 years, he was on an upward trajectory. Took a tiny step back year 3, and then a huge step back last season. However, he was never better than average. You accepted the mediocre play in the first two years because he was young. Now, you can't really accept it anymore, especially since 'clutch' doesn't matter if you're so bad during the regular season you can't make the playoffs.
I'm curious, will guys like you and junc come to this board regularly to continue defending Sanchez when he is on another team next year?
He never took a step into the big boy shoes. He always needed something to lean on, pick him up when he is down. He goofs around too much, doesn't take control of the huddle or himself. On the field he goes with the play he is given verbatim. He doesn't make adjustments or read the defense he's facing. Every aspect of leading, especially over the last two years he has failed in Big way. His time is nearing end here. With the state of the current Jets offense it would take a near miracle for him to rebound this year. Every mistake from here on out is magnified x10000000000000. The media will continue to eat him alive. Clock is ticking, almost at midnight.
He looked like he was doing that in 2010. In 2011, they tried to force him into that role. He didn't do a terrible job most of the year, but then he imploded down the stretch. I agree with this. I don't think the fans will give him a chance to turn it around. I think there's a better chance he is what he is, a mediocre starting QB, than him turning into a long-term solution, but there is a chance he does respond, knowing his NFL career may hang in the balance.
Valid, but putting Wayne Hunter as a starter was a completely irresponsible move, and then, when Mangold was hurt, having no one but a weak journeyman to start at center against one of the most formidable defenses in the league was shear lunacy, and that falls on the coaching staff. I still believe Sanchez never recovered from the beating he took that day. Look, I'm not advocating for him, I have severe doubts about him now. But the coaching staff, and GM's personnel decisions, share blame.
the man still cant identify where the blitz is coming from and adjust his protection he seems like one of those people that are book smart (knows all of the answers in the film room) but cant turn his knowledge into application (his play on the field) i gave him plenty of chances but im pretty much done with sanchez ... i think its time for the jets to move on
The fact that people are nitpicking and saying Sanchez was under supported is laughable. In order for that argument to hold any credence he would have to have the worst team surrounding him of any starter who's started for 4 or more consecutive seasons than ANY QB who's played in the league over the past 100 years. Yes you can pick one or two QB's off the list and make what appears to be an argument on that one or 2 QB's, but not on the list as a whole, or even on 90% of the list. There have been a lot of bad teams over the past 100 years. and Sanchez still Ranks at the bottom of the list! One argument I saw mentioned that a QB with a high rating only played 3 games, but if you read the article you know that only seasons with 10+ starts were counted. That's a red herring argument and a deceitful one at that. Think about it, over 100 years of NFL football and no QB has been worse than Sanchez compared to the league average who has started at least 10 games over at least 4 consecutive years with the SAME TEAM. Mark has been historically bad. Yes he's had a couple of decent playoff games where he didn't screw it up with turnovers and "won" by doing less. I mean think about it, in 4 play off wins He had exactly 1 game where he scored more than 1 td through the air or passing. one game. In the two losses he scored a total of 4 TD's....combined. In 6 playoff games he's scored. a grand total of 9 TD's....9....that's an average of 1.5 td's a game... Only two games throwing more than 200 yards. Yet it was because of him they won? His weighted career AV ranks him among all players, not just QB's, at as the 3,942 highest ranked player since 1950. Richard Todd by comparison ranks at 881.....Think about that for awhile.
And yes, if Mark is the day 1 starter I will root for him to do well, I'm a Jets fan first. But in the pre season I will root for Geno to win the Job because frankly I have zero faith in Mark.
the worst thing about sanchez is he is still making the same horrible back breaking mistakes in year 4 as he did as a rookie. if you want to blame the talent or the oc for some stuff, fine. but there is no excuse for him to be throwing 4 and 5 interceptions against the titans when we still had an outside shot of the playoffs. no excuse for throwing into triple coverage and throwing pick after pick in the redzone in year 4. those are mistakes that shouldnt happen in year 4
