SBNation:The Mark Sanchez era

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  1. laxin

    laxin Active Member

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    You must have a very low standard for "good" then.
     
  2. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    And that chart doesnt show shit,

    Here we go.

    What that chart shows is high water marks, for QBs.

    Steve young posted 120 twice.

    In seasons where he appeared in 10 games, starting 3.

    Less than 70 passes in the first year.

    Less than 100 in the second,.

    Now, to Steves credit, he was about a 101 career rating.

    In Tampa. 63.

    The chart is as retarded as the morons embracing it without UNDERSTANDING IT.


    Young, in those twp particular years, was used selectively, in spot duty.

    So...if we go spot duty, lets take the St.Lous game. Sanchez threw 20 passes, and posted a 118 QB rating.


    Fcol, how could any LITERATE person, get beyond the heading on the chart.


    Figures the author is a Chiefs fan.
     
  3. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    That you are too illiterate to understand the chart?
     
  4. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    considering your lack of spelling ability maybe you should refrain from calling anybody "illiterate"
     
  5. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Poor typing is one thing. Not knowing what you are reading, quite another.
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    For what he was asked to do, he played well. Stop trying to rewrite history to suit your argument.
     
  7. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    P.S.all you Jets fans, embracing this asinity, missed the fact that while using a season in which Young started 3 games, throwing less than 100 passes...

    Pennington, isnt on the list. Yes...real accurate.

    :rofl:
     
  8. NFL

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    Mark Sanchez is bad. I really have trouble understanding how anyone can argue that.
     
  9. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    You are literally the last person to talk.
     
  10. laxin

    laxin Active Member

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    This post is beyond retarded. Smh.


    All you have to know about the chart is that Sanchez is at the bottom. Sure, the chart is most definitely flawed in some ways, but the overall point is that Sanchez has had an overall unimpressive career.
     
  11. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Young did not start 10 games in the season he posted 120. He started 3 and threw less than 70 passes in the first, less than 100 in the second.

    The article, is basically garbage.

    Pennington, started more than four seasons, but if you ise the criteria he used for Young, Pennington is a 127, because thats what he posted in his first season.

    Greatest QB of all time.
     
  12. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    The biggest knock I have on Sanchez is for not taking control of situations. He should have locked up Holmes early, made the huddle his own, distinguished himself as the leader of the Jets offense. Too many times he acted like a child where it would have been easier and smarter to make the decisions of a man. His immaturity killed him more than anything else.

    1) hot dog oakland
    2) booger on brunell
    3) butt fumble (takes the cake on thanksgiving night)
    4) mad hotties banged including Kate Upton (not a bad thing, just bad timing during a bad season).

    Sanchez, has made some ass hat decisions on and off the field; but there is a defense in his case by the absolute shit squad we have put around him and fake ass leaders on offense. Few Qb's would be successful the last two seasons. Rex, is only mentioned on the "hot seat" bc the offense of 2011 & '12 were so inept.

    This year is most likely going to be bad again on offense. A bunch of guys who haven't played together, in a new system and with no confidence #6 manning the helm. The offense of line is suspect, the running back core is suspect the receiver core is suspect.

    The defense will be stout as always and the foundation is being built for Geno '14.

    Farewell Sanchez, you will be remembered for good and for bad. Some fans know it was not all your fault. There were opportunities of greatness. I believe the 2011 season started with a Sanchez ready to reach glory. Sadly, we put weak pieces around you; and at the end of the day you are kind of a fucking idiot. We failed you, and you failed to meet the many challenges of being a QB for a "run heavy" minded "offense".
     
  13. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    No. The chart is moronic. See above.
     
  14. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    If you think Sanchez was good in 2009, I don't think you know what good means ;)

    We tolerated how bad Sanchez was in 2009 because he was an inexperienced rookie (and the team made a mini-playoff run). But make no mistake, he was terrible.

    I have heard you dismiss 10,000 arguments because they're just stats, but I've never heard your argument why a season when...

    A. He completed 60% of his passes in 3/16 games.
    B. He threw for 280 yards in 0/16 games.
    C. He threw for more TDs than INTs in 6/16 games

    ...is considered good in your mind.
     
  15. milo

    milo Well-Known Member

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    It was good because we made the playoffs. If you're looking at those numbers after a 2009 where the Colts don't roll over, play dead, and let us walk into the postseason, you're spending that whole offseason wondering what you really just spent a 5th pick and then some on.
     
  16. Wahoo

    Wahoo Well-Known Member

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    This is right on target. I would also add that the organization allowed a once effective offensive line to crumble, which caused Sanchez to take a hell of a pounding. Look, Mark still has a hell of a lot to prove, but the team holds some of the blame for his demise. If Rex Ryan could have pulled his head out of his ass for five seconds, maybe some of these things don't happen, and Sanchez would be an effective QB. The guy's been bad, but its not completely his fault.
     
  17. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    His rookie year gets excused because he SHOWED UP in the playoffs. People can say defense carried him, which they did, but he made key plays that had to be made. In 2010, he did even more to help the team. That is what the average fan fails to realize. Do you know how many players choke and are AWFUL in the playoffs? Sanchez is not one of them. He got better in the 2nd season. People like Hobbes, junc and myself see that. We still believe if he can correct these careless mistakes, and the Jets actually give him weapons, that he can do it again. As each day goes by though, you can tell he will likely never get the chance to succeed in Green and White again.
     
  18. Jetfan76

    Jetfan76 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct after analyzing it more closely,the chart really doesn't mean Jack.
     
  19. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Look at the names on that 09 o line. Faneca, Mangold, Ferguson, Moore, Woody. It would be hard to ever keep that up. The '11 and '12 o lines while not as good was still decent. Those o lines were league average o lines. So he can only function on a once every 10 year line? That's damning to Sanchez more than it is to the o line.
     
  20. phubbadaman

    phubbadaman Well-Known Member

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    Y.A. Tittle is so good he's on the chart twice!!
     

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