If your owner didn't overpay a mid level QB then you guys would be thinking about Peyton too. Just about every team with a QB that isn't in the top 10 would be thinking about Peyton if so many of them weren't strangled by contracts. Really, it's no insult either. Peyton is the best QB of the past generation, if not ever. If teams have a shot at him they should be thinking about it, that sort of thing doesn't come around too often. It's a moot point anyway, it looks like Peyton isn't coming back.
The thing that's interesting is that none of those guys ever won a Super Bowl anywhere. As you point out it is the team that wins Super Bowls. The Jets could probably win a Super Bowl with the AFLAC duck playing QB for them if they built a strong team to support him. The only QB that has won a Super Bowl recently without a very strong team around him was Peyton Manning. By recently I mean dating back to maybe the stone age. And the Colts peaked across the board in the playoffs in 2006. Their defense which had been mediocre all season suddenly stepped up and shut down the Chiefs and Ravens while Peyton was struggling and then he repaid the favor by winning a shootout with Tom Brady in the AFC championship game. Peyton Manning is probably the only QB in NFL history to win a Super Bowl after throwing 1 TD and 5 Int's in the first two rounds of the playoffs. In the run to the Super Bowl win he threw 3 TD's and 7 Int's. Sign that guy up! He must be better at 36 after a near career-ending injury.
You always keep bringing up 6 games out of his 54 starts like Sanchez plays that way all the time. Sanchez probably has the worst composure of any starting QB in the NFL.
I've seen Rex's defense make Tom Brady look like a high school kid. Just saying that when you have no comfort zone it's easy to look scared on the field.
But he elevates his game in the post season. So when shit is on the line, he plays better. We've watched all the Jets games, not just 2 a year. When the game plan is sucking and the team needs a TD or a long drive to win, the CS puts the ball in Mark's hands and says - go win it for us. He doesn't have the most comeback wins in the last 2 years for no reason. They play like shit and when Schotty was forced to take the cuffs off, Mark was able to play. If there was more time on the clock, they would have beat Denver this year.
And probably would have beat Pittsburgh in the 2010 AFC Championship game also. That said, the handcuffs that the mutant put on the Jet's offense for the first 55 minutes of each game have been substantial. They lost the game early when they lost for a reason, and it wasn't Mark Sanchez turnovers - it's that the offense was typically dysfunctional for the first half.
Any QB will get rattled with pressure and a good defensive game plan. You can count on one hand Brady's poor performances due to a great defense. 95% of the time, Brady is the most composed QB in the NFL. Citing 6 games out of 54 saying Sanchez is a "composed" QB is ridiculous, because that is definately one of his weakmesses.
Problem is that the games Brady looks bad in are the exception to the rule, not the rule. Look at the Ravens game, he looked bad, but still kept his team in the game. There are very few games where the Pats have gotten raped under Brady. With Sanchez, the good games are the exception. And good games against good defensive teams are flat out miracles. The standard operating procedure for Sanchez is being mediocre to awful. And when he is mediocre to awful, especially against good teams, the Jets get raped. And in many of those games, like the Ravens game, he losses the game because of how bad he is.
The comment was that Sanchez was composed on the road in the playoffs, right? Which 6 games would you like me to cite when I make that comment? Games other than the 6 games he has played on the road in the playoffs? You need to read better before you jump in and troll. Trolling in and of itself speaks poorly of you but trolling with a misreading of the stuff you are trolling makes you useless. You're on ignore.
Mark has had plenty of good games in his 54 starts. I don't know that it's his composure. He doesn't lose control of himself, he's just streaky. In 7 of his 16 games last season he put up a QB rating of over 88. In 10 of his games he was above 80, which is probably the minimum for NFL QB competence. His bad games are just so bad they drag the averages down, for example, he put up a 30 against Baltimore last season. He played his second best game QB rating wise against New England last season. He does play well in big situations, it's been a constant in his career. I think he progressed last season, despite the meme that he regressed. His stats were all up, despite losing three of his wide receivers (Edwards, Cotchery, Brad Smith). I think the key for his future success is the Jets need to play to his strengths (play action, bootlegs), and get him a legit #1 WR to go with Holmes and replace hunter on the OLine.
Just to add to that, Sanchez has 14 games where his QB Rating is above 100, which is tough for a QB with the completion percentage he has. Edit: as a basis for comparison, Brady had 17 by the end of his third year starting.
One of the important things to remember about Sanchez post-season play is that the mutant was being throttled heavily by Rex in both runs. Sanchez has played fairly well when he wasn't playing the abomination that Mangini and Schotty put together and never made work all that well with anybody against decent defenses.
Comeback Player of the Year, dude. I know that sucks for Schotty Haters, but it's a fact that won't go away. Brad, You are correct I mistakenly was reading the advanced passer rating column from ProFootball reference stats. Shotty sucks, his system sucked, it's good he is gone, and Mark will be better because of it. Hm. And yet Jeff Fisher, one of the better HC's in the league, hired him. I guess not everyone agrees with the Sanchez Fans, huh?
He also won CPOY the year after he left the Jets and Schotty's turd of an offensive attack. Is that fact going anywhere anytime soon?
Dude, Smith had a grand total of 4 catches in 2010. That is a very silly argument to be making. He had LT, Keller and Holmes back, all three in his top four receivers from 2010. The only difference of significance was Edwards was gone. That's hardly atypical in the NFL. Flacco for example only had four of his top ten receivers back from 2010.
I could argue that Sanchez had a better season this year than Pennington did in '06 in the mutant offense. You're shitting all over Sanchez while propping up Pennington's '06 season? Really? Sanchez had the best TD/INT ratio of any QB in the entire Schotty tenure in 2011. Schotty's system here sucked. Eric Smith sucks too.
Do you think that somehow validates Shotty? Pennington won that award because he played a full season after tearing his rotator cuff. Here is Pennigton's stat line: 3352 17TD's 16 INTs. What part of that do you think validates shotty? The fact is Shotty's system sucked under Pennington, who was the most accurate passer in NFL history. When Pennington got away from Shotty, his stats improved like every other QB across the board. I have no idea why you can't comprehend that someone can realize that shotty sucks and not be a "Sanchez fan". I'll never understand people who can't see beyond black and white. The nicest things I've said about Mark Sanchez is that I think he's an average QB who has improved every year, but still turns the ball over too much and is too streaky.
Dude, of course dude. It's not so silly though dude. He was still a WR that had been with the Jets since Mark got to the team, and that builds chemistry. Smith was the fourth WR in 2010 so no, he wouldn't have many catches. He's still a receiver that Mark was familiar with. The bottom line is the guys who had been with Mark for a long time (Braylon, Cotch, Smith) were all taken away from him in one year. Yeah, Cotchery who caught 98 passes from Sanchez made no significant difference. You're arguing just to argue at this point, right?
No. They lost that because the Jets couldn't cause a 3-and-out in back-to-back Steeler possessions to get the ball back late in the 4th quarter.... Had they gotten the ball back, I truly believe that Mark was on such a roll, they would've gotten the go-ahead TD late and have gone to the SuperBowl that year.... And it turned out to be a GREAT "difference of significance" as we all witnessed.
You are being so argumentative about something we are not even talking about. THe issue was not comparing Chad to Mark. The issue was how much Schotty was holding back the three Qb's he worked with, the implication being that Schotty is the main, some might even say only, thing holding Mark back from greatness. Chad was so improved in his first year with Schotty that he won Comeback Player of the Year. Yeah I KNOW he was healthier than the year before, but still, how much did Schotty hold him back? Not that much. You also should have noticed my post was not a comparison of Chad and Mark from the discussion I also included about Favre. I wasn't comparing him to either of them, either.
