Sanchez's arm strength

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  1. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez needs to drop the hangtime on the balls.
     
  2. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    Yes, how about every single one of them? Your dislike for Sanchez has turned you from one of the best posters on this site to one of the worst.

    That pick yesterday is one t hat any QB in the league can throw. It was the right read as he had Braylon in a one on one matchup. He just missed on the throw by a couple inches and the CB made a great play on the ball.

    Rookie QBs don't win games for their teams, the best you could hope for is for them not to lose games for you. Now in 8 of 11 games that is exactly what Sanchez has done.
     
  3. Skicats

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    I've noticed that in recent weeks, Sanchez seems to be aiming the ball. He was most likely told to stop with the high throws, and is now compensating with a lot of low throws. He just seems tentative, like he is trying to "aim" the ball. I think he needs to get back to throwing more loosely. My 2 cents.
     
  4. Jet Blue

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    IMO, the coaching staff hasn't given him nearly enough Kid Glove treatment:

    I thought he should sit and watch for at least a few games..
    The coaching staff came out this season and acted as if they had a 10 year vet behind center.. Especially The Buffalo game he should have handed off all day... To me, for the most part there was very little kid glove treatment AT ALL, relatively speaking - Really how many rookies with his experience have EVER Started?

    Hey, I wasn't on board with Drafting Sanchez and I certainly wasn't on board with starting a QB with the resume of experience he brought to the table from day 1 but, so far everything we have seen is expected.... Guy is learning on the job. And I'm 100% behind him and excited to see his development... He's a NY Jet - He's my QB.

    The positive is that he's a tireless worker who knows what it takes, I think this is what seperates him from many of the QB busts who think they can go out there and play like it's College all over again.
     
  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    He was not panicking at the beginning of the year. That's a new phenomenon. I'm pretty sure it's because he's realized that he has a hole at LG in pass protection. He always rolls left, which is where you have to go to get away from interior pressure from that side, since it takes you out past the left tackle and his man and forces the guy pressuring you to make a turn in traffic to pursue.

    I don't think you can emphasize enough how poor a job Alan Faneca has done in protecting Sanchez this year. He has been just short of a turnstile and is on a pace to give up well more sacks than Adrien Clarke did in 2007, this despite the fact that Sanchez has been sacked a lot less than Chad and Clemens were.

    Pressure from the inside is the worst thing you can do to a QB because it not only forces them to move outside, taking away some of the possible outlets, but it also obstructs the hell out of their vision as the rush comes in.
     
  6. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    Believe it or not, I think jamarcus russell has as good an arm as any of those guys. Too bad he's borderline retarded.
     
  7. Mambo9

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    With Faneca protecting you back and Woody protecting against an OLB/DE you'd be panicking too.
     
  8. Mambo9

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    Totally agree... I can't believe we are paying that guy 8 mill a year.

    You are also very right in saying it obstructs the QB vision and Sanchez isn't the tallest QB in the league.

    How is Brandon Moore pass blocking? I think he's doing a better job than Faneca...
     
  9. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Didn't find him listed on this list: http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/11/13/between-the-lines-sacks-allowed-sorted-by-team/

    As of game 8 Faneca was responsible for 4 sacks out of the 15 that Sanchez took. D'Brick was at 1.5 and they have Richardson and Woody responsible for 1 apiece. That leaves 7.5 sacks out there, probably blitzes and/or sacks they thought Sanchez caused.

    I can't stand the absence of offensive line stats for individuals in the NFL. It's embarrassing for the NFL not to have a stats bureau somewhere keeping track for them. It's so 20th century, and early 20th century at that.
     
  10. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    they have it, but it always shows up in an article and they don't have them in the stats section on the website.

    They do have new OL stats, but nothing that shows sacks allowed.
     
  11. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Faneca was brought in for run blocking and establishing a presence and attitude across the line.

    I feel like he's done that, and his job here is finished. The Jets can pickup a guy in the draft to replace him, because Brick and Mangold can lead the line just fine.

    Woody is next too. The way Hunter or Turner, I forget which one, run blocks, they may be able to take over for Moore when his time is up. LG is more important due to who is to his right on the line.
     
  12. Italian Seafood

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    El Noodleo. :grin: I like Sanchez's arm and for the most part his accuracy, he just needs to stop some of the dumb forced throws which everyone has discussed to death. I think he will, he seems pretty smart.

    Someone mentioned Flacco, he reminds me of a young Vinny, who is my favorite QB of all time, right there with Namath. Cutler at this point, I think it's safe to say he has a million dollar arm and a ten cent head. I'm glad we didn't draft him and glad we passed on him again.
     
  13. Br4d

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    Yeah, that's a good comparison. Vinny might have gone to the hall of fame if he started on the Baltimore Ravens instead of the Bucs.
     
  14. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    I miss the old TBJ, and I've only been here for 2 years.

    They babied Flacco, and if you were a Ravens fan in the 1st half of their season, you might have tried to kill him if you saw him on the street. He was bad, even with being coddled with a great rushing attack.

    They, meaning all NFL teams, babied all their rookie QBs, at least the ones that had good to great careers.

    The fact that you want Sanchez to be treated like a veteran makes me think you are Brian Cutesy Schottenheimer himself.
     
  15. Hobbes3259

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    Hangtime? Are you sure you're not watching Pennington tapes ??
     
  16. Hobbes3259

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    Did you miss the 2nd and 12 to Edwards in the third quarter of yesterdays game?
     
  17. HardHitta

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    Well he doesn't have a pennington arm, he has a strong arm and can make all the throws. That throw to keller was a nice rocket.
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Last week against the Jags, I saw Sanchez throw a Favre-worthy bullet that went mostly unnoticed. Unfortunately, the throw was supposed to be a dump-off and the pass went rocketing past Thomas Jones' head before he realized it was in the air.

    Sanchez doesn't have a rocket arm, but he can make the throws. He needs to get his timing and footwork down and he needs to adjust further to the speed of the game. He also needs to keep hitting his intermediate targets a lot because those are the ones he has trouble hitting the receiver in stride. He needs a lot of work setting up screen plays also.

    But he has great attributes and if he can get it all together, I think he has a lot going for him. His supporting cast, if it also gets itself together and healthy, can be explosive. I look forward to what is to come for Sanchez.
     
  19. Jersey Joe 67

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    Loved the TD pass to J-Co in the Pats game, also.
    Nobody can say the kid doesn't have the tools, he just needs to catch up to NFL speed. He seems to rush some throws.
    I want to see him improve his short range passes though. I think he has a problem with those more then the deep balls.
     
  20. CJLang

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    The kid in Miami has a rocket also, but has trouble with accuracy.
     

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