Sanchez reached out to Jeff Garcia, will call Steve Young

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  1. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    I think we all like Sanchez off the field. Says the right things and always hear good things. It's frustrating that hasn't translated onto on the field success. I think we all hope he proves us wrong, it's just that we are treating him like a rookie in his 5th year, that's depressing.
     
  2. slimjasi

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  3. slimjasi

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    Would I consider McElroy as legitimate competition? I suppose I would but I suspect that the Jets don't and my guess is that the only way Sanchez gets any *REAL* competition is if the Jets bring someone else in to the mix.

    In response to the bolded, I totally agree that giving up a second round draft pick isn't worth it for a stopgap solution. I would be looking to either: A) draft someone in the mid rounds with some potential OR B) Sign my favorite of the cheap, questionable Free Agent QBs available.
     
  4. ArmandJ

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    If he wins it in a competition that is fair, I will be upset but I can deal. Just don't hand the job to him.
     
  5. slimjasi

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    1) Having the ball stripped is lack of awareness and carelessness . . . it is part coaching, but it is mostly a fundamental lack of game-awareness on the player's part. Mark has been a mistake prone quarterback over the entire course of his four year career. While it is certainly possible, it isn't particularly likely that Mark's propensity for game-changing turnovers suddenly changes.

    2) All of your posts are the same: They amount to rationalizing Sanchez's mistakes as the direct consequences of the ineptitude of others. Mark Sanchez has been a starting NFL quarterback for FOUR seasons. When does MARK SANCHEZ take the responsibility for MARK SANCHEZ's inadequate performances? When is MARK SANCHEZ held accountable for what MARK SANCHEZ does wrong? When do the excuses end? Let's say he has another bad year . . . Why I am I to believe that you won't be blaming MM? When does the blind support for one of most consistently poor passers in the league become deemed as just that . . . BLIND?
     
  6. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    None of them are a bigger joke than Mark Sanchez was this past season. Mark was no better this year than any of those guys and there could be no bigger joke than anointing him as the starter for another season, without having him earn it.
     
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  7. Jake

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    He called Chad for help with Sparano's system too :lol:
     
  8. 101GangGreen101

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    Mark can get all the knowledge he wants, but it's not going to fix that deer in the headlight look he has each and every week
     
  9. boozer32

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    Its not gonna matter. The WCO is the worst offense for Sanchez becase he is so inaccurate. When you cannot complete a 3 yard pass consistently you have no business running the WCO.
     
  10. Hobbes3259

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    Nor blind.
    Context.

    Hey neither me, nor Junc is saying the guy o's Joe Montana..l,but.....

    I don't see anyone pointing out that Schotty and Sparano are world beaters.

    Context.

    Well see what MM can do.
     
  11. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    So...which one played his way into a starting spot?

    Which one has more playoff wins?

    Just asking?
     
  12. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    1) When did Sanchez play his way into a starting spot? (hint: he didn't. He was the anointed starter from day one)

    2) What does playoff wins (a TEAM statistic) have to do with the merits of a quarterback (an INDIVIDUAL)?
     
  13. Ozymandias

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    it really doesn't matter who Sanchez reaches out to. he is mentally broken. didn't he train with Drew Brees last offseason? it's a lost cause, Sanchez is done.
     
  14. slimjasi

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    Again, you can keep blaming the offensive coordinators (and everyone else not named Sanchez) for as long as you want to for Sanchez's awful play. At some point, reality has to set in and you have to hold the player, himself, accountable. We are talking about a starting quarterback who has played FOUR full (just about) seasons. If someone just woke up from a 5 year coma and read your posts, they would think you were talking about a rookie.

    After all of the desperate excuse-making and painfully abstract rationalizations, some facts still remain:

    1) MarK Sanchez has been a starting quarterback for 4 full seasons.
    2) Of those 4 seasons, he has arguably been the weakness of the team for each and every one.
    3) His highest completion percentage over the course of any single season is 56.7%.
    4) He averages 6.5 yards per pass attempt.
    5) He Has accounted for 80 touchdowns (68 passing, 12 rushing) and 89 turnovers (69 interceptions, 20 fumbles lost). He has more interceptions than touchdown passes and more combined turnovers than combined touchdowns. Amazingly, not only does he have 20 fumbles lost, but he has 43 total fumbles in 62 total games! This means that he averages .69 fumbles per game. (which is fucking preposterous for a predominately dropback passer). In short, Mark has been a profoundly effective turnover machine.

    6) Perhaps most significantly, Mark has arguably regressed from year 2 through year 4. His decision making hasn't improved and is probably worse than it was several years ago, while his production has decreased by any objective standard.

    Again, you can pin this all on his offensive coordinators, or on his quarterbacks coach, or on the fucking weather, for that matter, if you wish to. Unfortunately, you are going to have an awfully tough time convincing any reasonable Jets fan who isn't brain dead that most of the blame for Mark's poor play should be placed on someone else's shoulders.
     
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    Im fine with Sanchez starting, he has to produce though. Hes on a short leash.
     
  16. deathstar

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    :up:

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    If you bring in garbage like Tavaris Jackson, of course he is going to "win" the "competition"...

    Still doesn't say much since Sanchez blows...

    I do love certain fans defending atriocious QB play. If Sanchez was on the Dolphins doing the exact same garbage, these folks would be signing a different tune about Sanchez...
     
  18. sanchise

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    Sanchez is a beast. He will be a world champion in butt bumping.
     
  19. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    Why even both arguing with that homer Hobbes? He clearly didnt watch Sanchez play this year. Anyone with any clue about football knows Sanchez is terrible.
     
  20. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    When I watch early highlights of Mark in his rookie year he was simply winging it 90% of the time...rolling out....side stepping easy sacks, making 3-4 pass rushers look silly, then flinging a Favre type pass 50 yards for the game winner.

    Now he tries to stay in the pocket, 3-5-7 yard drops, looking for throwing lanes and open receivers. Not his strength, especially when receivers almost never 'get open'. Seems like every coach tries to reign in their rookie QBs and turn them into a Payton Manning type pure pocket passer....saw it with McNab, Vick, and many others. The more we 'fixed him', the worse he got.

    Can't help but wonder how Mark would have turned out if we had developed his truly unique improv skills. I know it's tough on the o-line not knowing what the hell the QB is doing back there, but it's even harder on the d-line.

    I guess we'll never know.
     

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