Son, I'm not drinking Cool Aid, I'm drinking holy water and people most certainly believe Tim Tebow is a great HOF potential QB because his entire history has it written all over him. He has the leadership of Rodger Staubach, the cannon arm of Terry Bradshaw, the cool decision making of Joe Montana, the elusiveness of Fran Tarkenton and the power of Jim Brown. He will not just be the starting QB of the NY Jets he will lead us to multiple SB before he's bust is in the NFL HOF. He is an inspiration and I have learned so much from his transplanted fans, I feel truly blessed.
Here's one reason Tebow's a great fit for the Jets Blurb from the Mike Westhoff Q&A (sorry to post here, but i can't start threads yet). (and I can't post links, so I can't link to the entire Q&A) Q: Gratuitous question of the day: If there's anyone who can make the most of Tim Tebow's talents it's you. I know he's going to play special teams, but how will you use him? Westhoff: I have so many things I'm trying I don't have time to recall them all. I'm going to use him everywhere. When he was sitting in with me on this punt stuff, an assistant said to him, "You know, you're going to have to run down and make a tackle," and [Tebow] gave him a look that just froze him -- something like: "You don't think I'm going to run down there and make a tackle?" I started laughing and thought, "You just learned a good lesson there, young man." :rofl:
No I said those things contributed to the horrible passing offense that they had. And anyone with just a little football IQ would be able to see that. Yes he looked horrible at times, especially early on in his first 5 or 6 starts, but like most young Qb's he made great improvement. I was pointing out that not many Qb's would have good numbers in the situation he was in. And to say they could only game plan that way because he couldn't throw make absolutely no sense, becuase when they would turn him loose late in games he was able to make plays. It's a lot harder to make plays in the passing game when you are throwing mostly on 3rd and long. In the 4th they had to throw on 1st and 2nd more often, keeping the defense off guard making it easier to make plays. The Denver staff didn't want Tebow period from the day Horse Face and company came to town, he was in a no win situation there. Horse Face is pretty hyprocritical considering his numbers were worse than Tebows in his first season as a starter. If they would have based all of his future potential as a QB on those stats where would he be right now? All I am saying to you and the haters is give him a chance before declaring that he is doomed to be bust at Qb in the NFL. It would be good if the media would lighten up on the Tebow covereage, I know that gets old to the teammates, coaches, and fans. I'm a huge fan and it gets old to me as well...
On 3rd down and more than 9 yards, tebow completes 55% of his passes for a 97 rating. He also has a 8.1 yd avg. On 3rd down and 3-8 yards to go, tebow completes 35% of his passes for A 30 rating. He has a 2.3 yd avg. he had 38 attempts of 9+ and 37 attempts of 3-8. One could say the long third downs actually padded his horrible stats. Either way he wasn't getting first downs. A NFL QB has to convert 3rd downs and tebow is terrible at 3rd and intermediate. My thought is, he can't read a defense and had a very slow inaccurate release. Thus on the pressure plays, tebow can't make them with his arm. This is one of the many reasons I don't see him ever being a good QB. Ground and pound requires a QB convert these third downs and it is one of Tebows biggest weaknesses.
My bad 100% if you were referring to an individual post and not generalizing. Are you aware at how bad Denver was because you are talking about Tebow as if he took over the Packers.
only fools would try to make something out of nothing with this. sanchez is what in his 5th year? if he isnt outplaying tebow in practice in a brand new system there is something wrong...
reading comprehension is terrible... it's been said about 10 times this thread that Sanchez was drafted in 2009, and Tebow in 2010. Not exactly a huge disparity in age
It is not an indicator, but the media coverage of it was ridiculous and unecessary. Then people also pointed out, could you imagine if Tebow threw the 75 yd TD and Sanchez the 2 picks? The media was already saying this was a QB competition, imagine if the scenarios were reversed? We as Jets fans need to get used to the media over analyzing every little thing done and said by the Jets (even more than the past 2 years), and I am guessing Woody is 100% okay with the side effects of the trade. EDIT: put "Woody is" into my last sentence. forgot to add that important phrase
That what I don't get. The media calling it a qb competition? I also thought that meant 2 people fighting to be the starter like what going on in Cleveland?
If Woody had some common sense to go along with the PT Barnum showmanship then Tebow wouldn't be here. The thing that's fascinating is that the Giants actually laid out the prototype in front of him. Draft a franchise QB. Carefully build the offense around him. Live with the ups and downs. Profit when he has his feet firmly on the ground with playmakers around him and everybody on the same page. Somehow we wound up with Trader Joe's as our model instead and instead of profit we will get more of the same. The Giants changed offensive coordinators and they got rid of the two high profile players who were most critical of Eli in his first 3 seasons,Tiki Barber and Jeremy Shockey. The Jets should have gotten rid of Holmes, regardless of the cost after his antics last season. It's like they're the anti-Giants in terms of methods.
If Tebow was a franchise QB the Broncos wouldn't have traded him for a loss a couple of years after taking him with a 1st round pick.
The Broncos not only traded Tebow, they fired the guy who took him after only two seasons on the job. That's like a reflexive disgorgement. Trade the guy who saddled you with the QB and then a year later trade the QB.
Actually, things like this often happen when new regimes come in. It's normal "house cleaning". The new boss wants "their people" in place. The Tebow trade really only tells you two things. First, Elway wanted Peyton Manning when he became available, can't fault him for that. Second, that Elway didn't see Tebow as a franchise QB. IIRC, the top brass in San Diego didn't see Drew Brees as a franchise QB either, which is why they drafted Rivers and later, let Brees walk via FA. Seem to recall that Brees has been a pretty good QB down in New Orleans
First, you realize that these were in response to a teboi saying Sanchez isn't a franchize QB because the Jets traded a 4th round pick for the Tebow, right? Second, teams normally give first round QB much longer before they bail on them. Brees was with the Chargers for 5 years before they let him walk. They probably never would have let him walk if they didn't have Rivers either, oh and that massive injury to his throwing shoulder. It's not like they traded for an aging vet at the tail end of his career. A little different than 2 years and done, no?
what is really interesting is how you root against a player on your own team, it shows what you are all about.
I'm not rooting against Tebow at all. I'm just giving my opinion on what I think about Tebow. I'm sure u got at least one player on the Cowboys u don't think is that good.
I am sure I do but trust me I am not so focused on making sure everyone knows about it 24/7 and further more, no one I hate on the cowboys has 32 TDs and a 9-7 record as a starting QB when he is a punt protector. so lighten up and look at the bright side of a stellar athlete...
