Sanchez Kicking Ass In Philly

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  1. Geno007

    Geno007 Well-Known Member

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    Yes I like Geno and still do. He to young IMO to give up on him. Let say we draft a QB with our 1st round pick? Then what should the Jets do to help him?
     
  2. legler82

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    Did Schillens only play with Sanchez?
     
  3. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    We don't know if Harvin will be here in the future. We don't know if Decker will be here after 2 seasons. A lot of question marks on this roster going forward. Cooper would more than likely be our #1 receiver anyway if drafted. Now Cooper isn't the only player I would consider. I would absolutely love the top offensive lineman, or Mariota if the plan is in place to sit him for a year. Take the BPA.

    A good QB helps tremendously I agree - but I would prefer a QB that can run a pro-offense and go through their reads. I don't see that from Mariota at all since he's been in college.

    Watkins is not the better route runner, and you could argue Cooper has better hands. Cooper's been running NFL level routes for yrs now. He's right in that class with Watkins. He goes about his business far differently then Watkins.


    Your argument, half of it is mindless bullshit, not evaluation on the 2 players at all. Actually now that I think about it, the only assessment you said about Cook is that he has arm strength like Blaine Gabbert ... awful evaluation of a player you don't even know about.

    I like Cook more as an NFL QB.
     
  4. JStokes

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    We were discussing Amari Cooper versus Mariota, but nice non sequitur.

    He may be too young to give up on but he also too stupid to build around.

    Did I say that right?

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  5. SienaSaints

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    If a GM comes in here and gets rid of Harvin and Decker to draft someone top 5 he better bring the playoffs in year 1. Otherwise he's using adequate resources and not filling holes, rather maintaining status quo. Unless Cooper is Megatron of course.
     
  6. legler82

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    Does that mean Cook gets picked ahead of Mariota if they come out in the same draft?
     
  7. Geno007

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    Yes I know what your talking about. My question is when you draft a young QB what do you to help him? Just to make you happy Cooper would be the better choice.
     
  8. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Are you asking ME, if I would take Cook over Mariota? Depends on the team's scouting team and preference. How is it any different than the 2014 NFL draft? Or the one with Tannehill, Locker, etc? all about that team's preference.

    If I could get Cooper AND Cook in the same draft then I would be happy as fuck.
     
  9. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    A receiving core of Cooper, Decker, Harvin and Amaro would be beastly, as long as a QB can read the defense and get the ball into those receivers that QB is going to be one productive QB. With all of those options, I don't want a QB that doesn't go through progressions and locks onto 1 receiver.

    I just don't know what the future holds in regards to our receiving core in the future. Like I mentioned though, plenty of prospects to like at the top - that includes Mariota too. People think I don't want Mariota here - I would def take him here, but he MUST sit on the bench yr 1.
     
  10. JStokes

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    Dumbest thing I've ever heard you say. Now NFL ROUTE RUNNING is important? Have you SEEN how Watkins has developed without ANY NFL route running experience? Holy shit--give this NFL offense bullshit a rest--it's irrelevant. Watkins is TWICE the player Cooper is.


    I will excuse your being illiterate because I never compared the two, but what I said was I can't tell if Cook is a STRONGER ARMED version of Gabbert (the connotation there is that I think Cook has a STRONGER arm than Gabbert). Are you really that reading comprehension deficient? I also said I couldn't tell if he was a less mobile version of Foles. Did you forget that or did ADD impede your ability to process that comment too? If you need me to explain any of my posts in the future, please don't hesitiate to ask. I'll speak more slowly.

    Besides, I've seen Cook play. He's an inferior talent to Mariota. The majority of scouts would agree with me and disagree with you. Unless they had man-love for Cooper and didn't want the Jets to draft Mariota.

    Then you have no idea what you are taking about. Which is fine.

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  11. legler82

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    I think EVERY team would take Mariota over Cook in any draft. Do you think Cook and Cooper is better than Mariota and Parker, Montgomery or Coates?
     
  12. JStokes

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    LOL. Not.

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  13. JStokes

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    Cooper is NOT Megatron. Get it out of our collective heads. He's 6-1, not 6-5 and he's not nearly as good as Watkins.

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  14. pclfan

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    Schillens was never signed as a no. 1 receiver. We had other guys like Tone. And I'm not going to be ridiculous and blame Chad's mediocre career on Mark. I thought he had talent and 28 receptions for a no. 5 is ok. But here are a few negative quotes he had in an article when he was still with the Lions about the Jets and Sanchez. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/shutd...r-chaz-schilens-rips-jets-mark-184726620.html He obviously doesn't think Mark helped his career.
     
  15. JStokes

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    So as I suspected, you assume that since he hasn't been ASKED to do it, he therefore can NOT do it.

    So lets take an inferior player because of his experience as a 20 year old.

    LOLpfail.

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  16. JStokes

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    Tone was our number 1? Hahahaaa. Schillens was our BIG FA splash that year.

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  17. JStokes

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    Yeah, but what if you were looking for an inferior talent but he had a year or 2 of college experience with a pro set offense against college defenses?

    We're talking BIG TEN defenses here.

    Hhhhmmmm?

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  18. legler82

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    Agreed. I see him as a more refined less explosive Watkins.
     
  19. 101GangGreen101

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    Did you watch Antonio Brown play last night? On the TD, that route he ran was fucking off the charts. Route running isn't important? LOL. No evidence to support your claim. You just say a player is better with no details. I like receivers that are like technicians. It's no coincidence Reggie Wayne is one of my favorite receivers ever to play. Watch that man run routes and gain separation.

    Try harder.


    You ain't see shit dude. Your assessment on Cook is about the worst I've seen on the internet. Still putting Cook and Gabbert in the same sentence I see. What you fail to realize is talent can only get you so far in the NFL. I would take a player lesser in talent if it meant he knew how to make his reads, and get the ball to the correct player.

    Feeling is mutual. Truthfully, you haven't provided any good analysis on any of the players - essentially no different than a woman picking a team because their uniforms look good.
     
  20. legler82

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