I'm a young 55 and I think you find me more an more annoying the same reason I found my father to become more and more annoying. Because the older he got, the dumber I got and it ticked the shit out of me. Amari Cooper may be "pretty fucking legit" but he's not a franchise QB and we can find Amari Cooper's twin brother at the top of round 2. Grow up. Weren't you the dude fawning over Connor Cook 3 days ago until he decided he couldn't play in the league where they play for pay? _
Evidenced by how awesome Schillens was before and after he played with Mark. Tell me again, who does he play for now? _
You getting dumber is your own problem. News flash, not everyone thinks Mariota is a franchise QB. He's boom or bust - that's not a sure-fire franchise QB at this juncture. There is no "Amari Cooper 2" in this draft. To me, he's the BPA in this draft, I hope we get him. You can agree, or disagree I don't care. I still want Cook, but he won't be available this draft because he's going back to school (smart decision). The man can play, but there's nothing wrong with going back to school to increase your stock. I guess Peyton couldn't play in the league as a JR because he went back to school for his SR yr? Things are looking pretty shitty for the Jets, so I completely expect the Jets to be in the top 5 next draft also. We should still take a QB in this draft at some-point. Vick will be gone, Geno no way in hell does he ever start another season as a Jets starting QB.
I actually got 10x as book and street start as my Dad, but from the school of hard knocks, he's taught me things every day of my life. You're a kid, you'll get it some day. You keep pining for a decent WR over a franchise QB. You'll learn. _
I don't give a flying fuck about your upbringing lol, this is a football forum for discussion. Boom or Bust QB. Andrew Luck is a franchise QB - no flaws coming out of the draft. You'll learn what a boom or bust QB is. Actually you could just Google it. Plenty of flaws for Mariota. Plenty of good too.
Ahhh, youth is wasted on the young. Nice red herring on the Andrew Luck call, you sound like all the other kids trotting that red herring out. Yeah, lets take a lesser version of Sammy Watkins THIS year so we can take a lesser version of Marcus Mariota NEXT year. Makes perfect sense. For a Jet fan. _
But getting Cooper doesn't solve the QB problem. And you can't pass on a qb if you like who is available. If there is a franchise qb or even a shot at one you have to take them. Never know what will be available the next offseason.
If I had to win one game, I'd take Eli over Peyton if all things are equal. But if I'm starting a team, I'd take Peyton.
Of course not. Amari Cooper, as talented as he is, can be had in a slightly lesser form in the 2nd and 3rd and 4th round. Martavis Bryant is as good as Amari Cooper. He's not 6-5 Megatron, he's a less talented, less physical, less violent player as Sammy Watkins--same physical size, less talented player. Who knows if Mariota is going to be a stud. You HAVE to take the shot on him. Get Cooper-lite in at the top of round 2. _
We don't have just a QB Problem, we have a ROSTER problem. There are no franchise QBs in this draft. They either are too raw as of right now (Mariota) or they are a pain in the fucking ass (Winston). A "franchise" QB - is a QB that from day 1 you can put out there and will produce, he's going to make everyone better from the get-go. People throw that franchise QB word around a lot nowadays, sort of like the term "Elite" QB. Mariota, has A+ potential, but is extremely raw, he could very well not succeed at the next level we don't know yet. He's boom or bust. The Texans and Rams clearly felt the same way about Bortles, so much that they drafted other players instead of him. Want to know why? He wasn't a sure thing.
Cooper and Watkins aren't the same player - Watkins is physical and runs like a beast. Cooper is going to beat you with technique (which is what I love about Cooper in the first place). Watch him run routes, watch him gain separation, great hands. He's going to make the QB a better player because you don't have to make the perfect throw to get him the ball. LOL @ comparing Mariota and Cook - some scouts believe Cook is the better NFL prospect also. Completely different QBs with different skill-sets. What an awful assessment.
But Harvin Decker and Kerley with Amaro as the wide receiver and some money spent in free agency is fine. They need a new offensive line, and secondary. However, a good QB changes your future.
Do you believe Mark's inaccuracy helped his receivers careers. You have a short memory if you believe he regularly threw catchable balls. Schillens had been decent with the Raiders and he wasn't our lead guy he was a 4th or a 5th.
Exactly. Watkins is the superior player, physical, speed, route running. Cooper is a nice player, not in Watkins class and not worthy of a top 3 pick, escpecially if Mariota is there. If he were 6-4 or 6-5, I migh have a different opinion. Yes, and MOST scouts think Mariota is the superior player by FAR. You can find scientists that think the climate is getting warmer as well as scientists that think the climate is getting colder. Interesting that you want to believe the minority of scouts that think Cook is better. THAT is an awful assessment. Honest question--take out your man-love for Cooper. Who do you think is a BETTER pure QB? Mariota or Cook? Right now, everything else being equal. One name answer. No hedging, no putting parameters on them. Who's better? _
so decent that his career high was 29 recs in Oak and had 28 w/ us n 2012, he tied his career high in TD recs w/ us too. He wasn't good, maybe as a 4th or 5th option e could be good but he became a starter for us due to injuries.
Again with this bullshit. Raw, rawness, he's sufficiently raw, raw defines him. So measurable, so precise because you can't think of anything else. The guy is the most polished QB in college football. Started every game since freshman year day 1. Does everything his system requires to PERFECTION. The opposite of "raw" lol. _
Lol, Schillens was signed to be the number 1 receiver, that's how pitiful this FO was in giving him talent. By the way, what does any of this have to do with what he did yesterday? I get as a hater you need to shit on the guy, but did you seriously have an issue with how he played yesterday? _
