Sanchez Kicking Ass In Philly

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  1. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    How did he elevate his teammates, when they went from winning the division, to missing the playoffs? Spin that all you want. You clearly don't know shit about football. It sure is fun watching you make yourself out to be an idiot, over and over and over again.
    Nacho can't even elevate his self, much less teammates. You are some fan of the game Junc!
    Seeing your ridiculous replies pertaining to a shitty QB, are hysterical!!! When will you stop defending your man crush and actually educate yourself about football?
    You might fool some people, but not people who truly can see, and understand the game.
    What's gonna be your excuse next season?
    If you played football, and I'm sure you didn't at this point, were you a 4th or 5th string special teamer?
     
  2. BeastBeach

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    Sanchez was the "glue" to that offense like Ryans was the "glue" to the defense
     
  3. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    Clearly they were until Nacho took command. He proved to everyone he isn't a QB you can count on. He is a choke artist. A below average one at best. Nobody said it, he proved it himself.......Again!!! Anybody who thinks Nacho is someone who can lead or follow ay good team, comes up short in the end. Junc's lousy judgement, is like a dumb dog chasing its tail. Junc, you don't add anything to a real explanation. You don't know football, you just want all of us who truly know the game, to believe that you do.
    Wake up Junc, you keep looking worse and worse and worse.
     
  4. The 1985er

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    But here's the funny thing. According to junc the defense gets more blame than Sanchez and the offense because the Jets strength were their defense and the team is built around their defense. So by that logic I find it funny that he blames the defense in Philly despite the strength of the Eagles being their offense.
     
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  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    he elevated the offense to scoring almost a TD more per game against the much tougher part of their schedule. He gave his team a chance unlike Peyton last night.
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    If our D was playing as well as Philly's O then I'd agree with you but our D got stomped on. If they held the opponent down and we couldn't score I'd blame the O. If Philly's O didn't score I'd blame their O but our supposed elite D was gashed in both title games, the Philly O averaged almost 30 PPG w/ Sanchez- that's a little different, wouldn't you say?
     
  7. The 1985er

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    Blah blah blah blah blah
     
  8. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    You football intellect fails you my friend. Again you are using the fantasy stats to say that your favorite QB played above average. More total turnovers than TD passes. The most important thing is, he took a 6-2 team that was winning the division, and led them into the ground. Typical Nacho. He choked when his team needed him most as well. Biggest play of the year, and he throws a pick. Nacho all the way Junc!!! He is the man!!!!
     
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  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    5-2 team, Foles left tied at 7 and Mark led them to win over tough Texan team on the road. Schedule was much more difficult in 2nd half, O scored almost TD more per game in spite of this. O was more efficient. Foles turned it over a ton too, the difference was the defense. If you couldn't see that I can't help you. You want to see a QB that cost his team a season? look at Denver the other day.
     
  10. BrucekilledBoomer

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    Didn't you assign primary blame to the Jet defense when they gave up 10 points to Denver in 2011 and the Falcons in 2009?
     
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  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I bashed them for allowing game winning drives in final minute but I don't recall if I assigned primary blame. I did spread blame around to O as well though.
     
  12. BrucekilledBoomer

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    You assigned primary blame (amazingly) to the defense.

    This was the description to Atl game:
    3 picks vs. Atl but again our "#1" D blew a late lead. It was a very windy and cold day, a low scoring affair and when it was winning time our "#1" D didn't show up.
    http://forums.theganggreen.com/thre...nchez-off-the-jets.79915/page-71#post-2933253

    Fair to say that in a (fairly) high scoring affair with the Skins, Sanchez didn't show up in winning time? As the most important player on an offensive driven team, he didn't have to put his defense in a bad spot by throwing that pick. I think it's fair to assign the primary blame to the offense there, going by these guidelines.
     
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  13. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    read again, I mentioned D but didn't assign primary blame in that post.

    either way- Is Mark elite? we had a supposed elite D. an elite D makes the plays late to win. Mark brought Philly back from 10 down in the 4th qtr. he made a mistake but he didn't give Wash the ball at the Philly 5. they got it at midfield. Make a play.
     
  14. BrucekilledBoomer

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    Not in that post, it was a bit further down:

    Let's look at the losses each year and assign primary blame:
    2009:
    @NO- mark
    @Mia- D
    Buf- Mark
    Mia- STs
    Jax- D
    NE- team
    Atl- D
    Ind title game- D

    2010:
    Bal- team
    GB- O
    @NE- team
    Mia- O
    @Chi- D
    Pitt title game- D

    2011:
    @Oak- D
    @ Bal- Mark
    @ NE- D
    NE- D
    @Den- D
    @Phi-D
    NYG- team
    @Mia- team

    2012:
    @Pitt- team
    SF- team
    Hou- team
    @NE- D
    Mia- team
    @Sea- Mark
    NE- team
    @ Ten- Mark
    SD- team
    @Buf-team
     
  15. BrucekilledBoomer

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    Again, we're talking about a game in which 3 of the Falcons 10 points were set up by a Sanchez interception and the Denver game in which 7 out of 17 points came off a Sanchezs pick 6. But the defense was primary culprit. And why? Because they're a perceived elite defense. Well if you, nyjunc, don't perceive them as elite, then why are you grading them on a higher scale? What do you care what the perception of the average fan is? What they are is a defense that gave up 10 points and that should be enough to win.
     
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  16. nyjunc

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    Ok so I did. No issue w/ that. cold, windy day w/ little offense. shut down Atl for most of game but w/ game on line they allowed them to march downfield for winning TD. this doesn't mean Mark is blameless though. he had a bad game, K missed kicks(just like in Washington game which people already forget).
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    after the pick 6 in Denver he led O right down field to take lead back. D shut down Tebow and co. for 55 mins then allowed a QB that can't throw to go 95 yds in final mins. THat is on the D but AGAIN O and Mark are not blameless. They deserve their share but D blew that game.
     
  18. BrucekilledBoomer

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    So the PPG stats that you've been beating us over the head with are important unless it hurts the argument for Sanchez. Got it. They gave up 10 points (3 on a 15 yard drive following a short punt) in a full 60 minute football game in Denver. It wasn't Tebow's only scoring drive that season. And again, if the Jet defense isn't elite you shouldn't expect them to hold teams completely out of the end zone for 60 minutes.
     
  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    can't allow a QB that can't throw to lead a 95 yd drive to win a game in the final minute. Can't do it.
     
  20. BrowningNagle

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    That Denver loss had to be the worst offensive football game of the modern era, 21st century.

    On one side you had a team led by a QB that didn't belong anywhere near the league and the other was led by the worst offensively minded HC and a turnover prone QB who shouldnt've have been a starter in the league. In pissing rain.. on a thursday night where offenses typically struggle.

    14 combined punts, 11 combined 3 and outs, 4 combined turnovers including a pick 6, 2 missed FGs.

    One quarterback was 24-40 with a pick 6
    The other was 9-20 for barely a 100 yards. He led his team to 8 consecutive punts between the 1st and 4th quarter and still won the game!

    That fucking game was just plain brutal. An abomination. The NFL should've paid people for sticking around to watch that game that day as offenses went back in time.
     
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