Eli is too inconsistent to be an upper tier QB, I'm probably being a little too harsh calling him a JAG, he'd be the upper tier. But remember this, JAG stands for just an average guy and I might be able to justify calling Eli one of the top 10, barely, Maybe top 7 or 8, but definitely not top 5. in a league with 32 starting QB's a JAG is going to be in the 10-20 range if you were rating QB's. because JAG stands for what? Just an AVERAGE guy.
BTW nice deflection of the argument when you realized your initial point wasn't going to fly when analyzed.
Eli is a solid QB, nothing special but he has some great qualities that allow him to not get rattled in big moments. If his brother had those there would be no doubt about greatest QB of all time but he doesn't.
A dropped interception is not an interception--it's an incompletion. It's a fake subjective stat. Just like a perfectly thrown ball that goes off a receivers hands into the air an is picked off IS an interception. You know that throw down the sidelines that the CB caught just as he went out of bounds? Yeah, NOT an interception. I haven't had Sanchez high on a pedestal since mid-2011. I'm just happy an ex-Jet has gotten a chance to do well somewhere else, maybe redefine his career. You're rooting against an ex-Jet because you NEED to be right. I don't care if I'm right, if he screws up these next 4-5 weeks I'll say "it figures". If he does well the next 4-5 weeks you'll continue dragging up your fake stats and spreadsheets and metrics from 3-4 years ago when he was with a different team, different talent, a different shoulder, a different maturity level. It's a compulsion you can't let go of. _
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/11/12/mark-sanchez-philadelphia-eagles-nfl/ Great article on #6............I mean #3.
OK, we have several different discussions going on at once, which one do you think I'm deflecting from?
Eli is very talented, but frustratingly inconsistent. He's too hot and cold to be considered anywhere near elite, but too talented and accomplished to be considered a JAG. He's above average, but not much better than that.
Peyton's biggest flaw has been playing for the majority of his career on a team that couldn't run the ball well and played good but not great defense. In short just like Elway for much of his career he played on a one dimensional team, same for Mariano and a few others. Wins are a team stat....
Point 1. I never said it was an inteception, I said it wasn't but should have been...but it didn't count as one. and I added that it balances out overall with the interceptions that shouldn't have been...in the end there's balance. but you ignore that part, as usual. Where have I said I hope Sanchez does poorly? No Where, I've said I hope he figures the game out. I have said I don't believe he will because at this point in his career it would be rare for a player to really turn it around, he could but I doubt it. 3 of the 4 things you list make no difference to what Mark's weaknesses were, he always had a strong arm for example, he just couldn't read defenses, made poor decisions, and was often inaccurate with his throws in the short to mid range game. For someone who doesn't have Sanchez on a pedestal you spend a lot of time attacking anyone who doesn't love him.
would make sense if the reply hadn't been yesterday to a question you challenged me on yesterday..but I'll give ya a break on it.
100% BS, he had good run games throughout his career. he has less of a run game now than he ever did in Indy but through all the chokes in Indy he had good to really good run games on a consistent basis. Marino you have something there, he rarely had good ground games but Peyton has had it all.
To me a Jag is just an average guy...and to me I look at QB's or any position like this, is he in the top 1/3 of starters? if so he's a +QB, middle 3rd is a Jag, and bottom 1/3 are -QB's. I honestly have problems putting Eli higher than 10 at best and 12 at worst in terms of best QB's in the league, that would put him on the upper side of average, but still average. Let me put it in grade levels. The top 10 would be in the A to B range, the next 10 would be in the B- to D+ range and the least 12 would be in the D to F range, or in some cases (players with less than 3 years experience an incomplete grade) To me Eli falls in the B- to C+ range in today's starting QB's. If he was more consistent he'd make probably be in the top 6, but he's just too inconsistent to put in the top 10.
Just goes to show that what you think you see isn't what you really have...JUNC strikes out again. year Off rush TD OFF rush RNK DEF rank 1998 27th 29th 29th 1999 18th 18th 17th 2000 16th 25th 15th 2001 4th 7th 31st 2002 18th 26th 7th 2003 9th 19th 20th 2004 19th 15th 19th 2005 6th 16th 2nd 2006 6th 18th 23rd 2007 2nd 15th 1st 2008 19th 31st 7th 2009 12th 32nd 8th 2010 12th 29th 23rd The reality is only 1 time in his entire Indy career did he have a rushing game that ranked inside the top 15, 2002. Now there were 4 seasons where the rushing game ranked in the top 10 in scoring...but if you're a bottom half running team and a top 10 rushing TD team how are you getting near the endzone? through the air. Now the Colts did rank in the top 10 4 times in terms of fewest points allowed. So 1 time he had an above average running game (6 times he had the bottom 1/3 running games). As usual, in order to inflate you're guy you try to deflate anyone who was truly good.
Attacking Sanchez? Or defending what has actually occurred? I don't rah rah over 1 or 2 games, especially when they come against very bad teams. You've refused to acknowedge that I said he played a nice game, but sorry I'm not going to take those results out of context.
