Lol at Junc's last stand; now he's injecting quotes from Bart Scott to defend Sanchez. Soon, Junc, it'll all be over soon.
this thread is about Sanchez, right? it's relevant that a new media member and former teammate would defend him. anyone who understands this game knows what mark was up against, it's too bad he got hurt and he couldn't save his career here. I hope Geno is great, we'll see.
Laugh, I have read the game thread idiot...I've watched the videos, I've read the play by play. As usual your Sanchez love colors your vision. He's had a few good games, never an outstanding game. Unless you count just not turning the ball over an outstanding game....I consider that just doing what your expected to do to be acceptable if your not putting up big numbers. Reality is that production wise Sanchez's ceiling is as a game manager, but he turns the ball over far too often to be a game manager, 1 season with fewer than 21 turnovers. 1....and most of those aren't the system they're sanchez making throws when he should have thrown the ball away or gone to another receiver instead of locking on to a single receiver.
Oh, and Jones 2 TD's Sanchez 1. If score is what matters that says it all Junc ole boy. Learn the game.
please leave the childish insults out of the thread. it's clear you have no idea what you are watching. I bet if he threw for 300 yds and we lost 24-17 you'd say he was great. it's all about #s for the average fan.
Oh and Junc, it was Keller and Cotch, not Stuckey that carried the game with some really good catches of junc balls ....
Stuckey started, right? he's not a starting player in this league and we averaged over 21 PPG in those 3 games despite no run game and Stuckey starting. it's amazing how all these players carry mark, where has all the success been w/o him for these players?
They are going to IR him, even if he could come back, they will IR him. It would be a saavy move. I have a feeling orders were going to come from the top to start Geno no matter what. That's why Idzik - who hasn't really been that talkative to the media at all - went out of his way to say it would be a "collective decision" regarding the starting QB earlier in the year. He obviously would want to go with Geno considering he drafted him and he thinks more long-term than Rex - but Morningweg also appears to favor Geno. So anyway, I think they were going to start Geno no matter what. At least now if they IR sanchez and the kid struggles they can say oh well we had no other options. They save face picking a QB. They tell Sanchez they are cutting ties after the year and he gets to spend this year rehabbing on their dime - a respectable end with the organization that he would be okay with. That's why they signed Quinn. They will IR Sanchez and go with Smith and Quinn for the year. Rebuilding at it's finest.
If he put up those numbers and the Jets lost I'd put the loss on the team and say Sanchez played a great game yes. Wins and losses are team stats, not individual stats. Individual performance dictates if you are adding to the teams chances to win, not hurting the teams chances to win or hurting your teams chances to win. If you play an outstanding game you added to your teams chances to win by controlling the ball, adding yardage, and putting points on the board. not hurting your teams chances to win means not making foolish turnovers and not making foolish mistakes Hurting your teams chances to win means you failed in the above categories. In two of the three games Sanchez was in the second category, in one of the games he was in the third category but the defense bailed him out when he almost blew the Titans game in the 4th quarter. You knock Jones for being ineffective all game except for 2 plays, in 80% of Sanchez's games that's been the exact description of Sanchez...except in most of those he never rises above mediocrity. Stats don't tell the whole story, that's why I look at play by plays, it's why I look at game sitations, It's why I actually WATCH and EVALUATE the games as they're being played. and for 3 seasons I did so objectively. I've given Sanchez praise when he's earned it. But I won't praise him as being outstanding when he's NEVER been outstanding. Sanchez was blessed his first two seasons to have an outstanding defense and a top line running game to support and cover his weaknesses, but his turnovers in 2009 almost cost the Jets a playoff chance and you can very successfully argue his inept play with turnovers cost the Jets a playoff birth in 2011. Nothing was going to save 2012, well maybe if he didn't turn the ball over 26 times all by his lonesome the Jets maybe finish 9-7 or 10-6 instead of 8-8 and make the playoffs. The fact is in Sanchez BEST year he couldn't even muster a 1.5 to 1 turnover to TD rate...at HIS BEST. The fact is Sanchez makes poor decisions, poor reads, is inaccurate with his ball placement, over throws short passes WAY to often, locks on to double and triple covered receivers and instead of throwing the ball away to live another day throws a PICK far too often. The fact is Sanchez is the year in and year out league leader in true interceptions, these is where deflected interceptions are not counted but dropped interceptions are counted, Sanchez by FAR leads in this. He is by FAR the luckiest QB in the NFL over 4 seasons with dropped interceptions. If your going to make Brett Favre types of mistaks you damn well better be doing the positive things Brett Favre did as well. Sanchez is Brett Favre without the positives.
And look who was putting up the catches and the numbers, the outstanding Cotch who could make ANYONE look good, and Keller who despite his rap here has been one of the leading receiving TE's over his career until last season. But Whatever Junc, do you watch these games in Braille?
According to ESPN a little while ago the only or at least main reason Sanchez hasn't already been released is that Johnson insists he stay around to get that 8.5 mil...of couse that is ESPN so take it with a grain of salt.
I know we've had this argument before, junc, but Mark Sanchez was not good in 2010. Mark Sanchez was not "acceptable" in 2010. The Jets had arguably the strongest arsenal of receiving options in the league that year (Holmes, Edwards, Cotchery, Keller, Tomlinson) and the Jets were 22nd in passing yardage. 26th in yards per attempt. 30th in completion percentage. 25th in QB rating. Sanchez did not even flirt with average in ANY STATISTICAL MEASURE OF PASSING. The Jets probably win the Super Bowl that year with the league average QB at the helm. The rest of the team was that good. Skip the part where you talk to me about the lack of trust and occasional lapses. No team in history is immune to those, but on the average, the defense was dominant. Ironically, in 2010, that average QB was David Garrard. Or the combined effort of Vince Young and Kerry Collins.
What's Johnson planning on doing...having Sanchez wash the team bus every week? Sanchez is a distraction on a team that needs to concentrate on improving. It's time to throw dead weight overboard...
It might be planning that..seems he is upset about the criticism he is already getting with this year's dead money (I assume mainly Revis's)
Very true. I don't see how any poster can make fun of this quote. It is a fact. And it was terrible to watch happen to Sanchez and the Jets.
so w/o knowing how he played you'd say he played a great game b/c he threw for over 300 yds? That's all we needed to know. Thank you. so why has ben not had his 2 best years w/ Cotch making him look good? why did we struggle pre Mark? Keller has been one of the leading receiving TEs? Serious question, do you watch football? He wasn't good, he was very good. Holmes missed the first 4 weeks Cotch was hurt most of the year and even missed games LT was thrown away by his former team Braylon was a GOOD WR, nothing more keller was a GOOD pass catching TE, nothing more we had good weapons, I'm not sure they were top 10 weapons let alone "strongest arsenal" in the league. I don't care about stats, I care about wins and he led us to many wins that year. on the average the D was dominant? do you know what a dominant D looks like to make such a crazy statement? We had a decent run game that was inconsistent, we had a banged up/suspended WR corps, we had a good not great D that was inconsistent. You guys act like we had the Colts weapons of the 00s on O to go along w/ the '85 Bears D. It's comical to read this stuff.
