He made a crap int week 1. Still managed a 99.8 passer rating. Put 27 on the board last night, and all he need to be last night...was a game manager...and his meager passer rating reflected that. Lots of short throws, but...lots of scoring (thanks special teams) And nis only bad decision, was the forced throw to Hates that went incomplete. You could argue for the run, with Gates open in the EZ, but you dont know the call. The pick was all Winslow. And three more long gainers. In 2 games hes put up a quarter of last years total, and theyre installing a new offense. Get real.
What I don't understand is why the description above puts people in the middle. What you've described there, fairly well, is a bad NFL QB. This isn't the 60's and 70's any more. Good QB's don't have low completion pcts, commit key turnovers and still somehow help their teams win. Good QB's lead their offenses to 3 or 4 TD's a game with regularity and without handing the other team the ball at bad moments. A QB who can't lead his team to points on a regular basis and turns the ball over too much is just a bad QB. There's a reason that Mark Sanchez has ranked between 23rd and 31st in passer rating in his 4 seasons in the NFL. It's an accurate measure of his passing ability, which is very poor compared to the average NFL QB.
No fumbles. The miss on Gates, to me....seems to say he wont look at Gates, because he was eight i. His field of vision. Gates only had a couple targets...personally, I cant see why they make Edwards come in late, and let Gates play Early. Edwards is the complimentary liece to Hill and Kerley. And has the Chemistry. Seems to me, they are forcing Gates, and Winslow now, but Ill be shocked if its that way opening day. However, as to being in his fifth year, i get the argument..,but the guy jad one college season, shit coaching for 4 years. In his last year, he outscored every QB under schottenheimer, and we all know Sparano is ni OC, plus the injury bug in 2012. This is the third offense, in 3 years...I think, this will be like a 3rd year QB year.
That was last week and even in that game he had bad throws too. Last night he had a 76 passer rating. He looked like crap for the majority of the game. He threw 3 bad passes that all was fortunately enough to be caught. He's still the same player no matter the system. Deal with it.
Some of this may be so, but I am absolutely convinced now that he is the starter in September. No question. What other choices do we have that give us better chances right now? You can't start any of the other three. He did well enough last night to finally separate himself (in my eyes). So now we're fucked but good... something I've been saying all Spring.
welcome to TheGangGreen.com! as you'll see it is VERY possible to defend sanchez, and some here do it ad nauseum.
not sure about him separating himself, really its all on geno to prove he has it now or he has to wait.
Cripes, you're reaching there. A fairly untried bunch of WRs, some HBs cobbled together, a bunch of TEs that are either untried or in the latter years. A bunch of QBs that are like Siamese twins, but the O line is half decent.
I don't disagree. "The middle" was referring to being between fans who think Sanchez never does (and never has done) anything positive on a football field and fans who think that he is a top-10 level QB; I was not saying that I think that he is (or has been in general) an average NFL quarterback. To me that is his ceiling, which he achieved in 2010 and the first half of 2011. I think in 2009 and the second half of 2011 he was below average (bottom 10 in the league, not grading on a curve that he was a rookie in 2009), and in 2012 he was off the charts horrible (quite possibly worst in the league).
I like Geno but there is precious little time left now. He'd have to come out next week with absolutely flawless drives to even be considered. And at the same time, Sanchez would have to really stink up the field (in true Jets fashion, he won't start doing that until September). Simms impressed me last night. The kid has a GREAT arm! But way too inexperienced, And GMac hasn't been given enough reps to consider him totally reliable. Just remember Rex's "incumbant" comment about El Guapo. If he's not convincingly unseated, he's going to start. JMO.
Section 227, I agree to a point, and frankly I was against them drafting SMITH, as I am a big believer in the 2014 QB class of : Bridgewater, Manziel, McCarron, Murray, Hundley etc., but I have watched SANCHEZ (painfully) for 4 years, and he is just awful and basically UNWATCHABLE, so even though I am not a SMITH fan, I would surely be in favor of throwing the kid to the wolves and see what we have. Is 3-13 that much worse than 5-11?
I think if Geno has a good outing next week, which is a coin-flip basically, that the Jets will fall all over themselves to give him the job. I agree with you that it's unclear that he's ready to go and will still be so even if has a good outing next week however the Jets are absolutely in the entertainment business (as are all professional sports franchises) and watching Mark Sanchez play QB is about as little entertainment as you can get for your entertainment buck at this point.
T-mac, Thanks for the welcome! This looks like a great forum. For years I posted on the ESPN JETS forum, and recognize some of the posters on this forum. Defendeing SANCHEZ is truly an ART FORM now as you have to get very creative to defend a QB who now ranks among the worst in NFL history. I Know people still so and some of the points they try to make or things they use in his defense are amazing. You need only use the EYE test on SANCHEZ to realize he is a VERY POOR NFL QB! Too bad!
the JETS weren't going to do anything this season PERIOD. This team overall is lacking in taking over the Bills, Fins, and Pats. But with that said too much attention is on the Offense. To me the offense, including Mark Sanchez, has proven they can get it done and put up points. The Defense however, the bread and butter of Rex, was complete shit. If teams around the league are truly going to do a hurry up offense, the JETS are doomed no matter who starts under center. The D is currently the one with the biggest question mark, not the QB position.
Lets bitch about a bad route run by the tight end? How about bitching about a QB who failed to see the open receiver on the play and elected to throw to a Tight end who had a defender over and under him, regardless of how well the route was or wasn't run. Again with throwing everyone under the bus when your boy doesn't produce or makes a mistake. And I love that you still include the 17 points Sanchez led the Jets to in the 3rd quarter against, in your words when describing how good Simms looked in the game, ""Playing against guys that will be bagging groceries in 2 weeks.". Talk about a double standard, For sanchez putting up 17 points against ""Playing against guys that will be bagging groceries in 2 weeks." is good and should be counted, but when it's not your guy putting up points against that same defense it should be discounted because he was ""Playing against guys that will be bagging groceries in 2 weeks." Never mind that against these same guys he was "Playing against guys that will be bagging groceries in 2 weeks." he put up essentially the same amount of yardage in one quarter that he put up in an entire half against the first team and the team scored 17 of his 27 points against these "grocery baggers". And this doesn't even bring in to play that MM didn't trust sanchez enough in the redzone in the 3rd quarter to even let him throw the ball against these ""Playing against guys that will be bagging groceries in 2 weeks." OR that Sanchez failed to throw a TD against the 2nd and 3rd stringers....This should sound familiar as the RUNNING game and defense did the scoring for the Jets in the 2nd half. In fact the Jets DEFENSE put up as many points as Sanchez did. But like I said Hobbes, whatever you have to believe to make you feel good, whoever you have to throw under the bus to make you feel good about Sanchez, who's next under the bus, MM when Sanchez starts flailing? Maybe you should be throwing MM under the bus now for the play calls that led to the Sanchez picks and red zone failures....It's pre-season, you might as well get in form on that to.
I polished up my crystal ball and here's what it's telling me: 1) Sanchez starts and immediately begins stinking up the field, because that's what comes naturally to him following Preseason. 2) And here's what I didn't expect from my crystal ball: Sanchez is pulled and GMac gets inserted and he does reasonably better. 3) GMac gets injured and now Geno comes in and we make the wildcard at 9-7 and are then eliminated the following week.
