More than anything else, I just want to see Smith play. Or, perhaps more tellingly, I just want to see someone OTHER THAN Sanchez play. The thing is, we've all seen Mark make 62 career starts for this franchise. We know what he is. We know he isn't the answer (or really, anywhere close to being the answer). Let's begin to give SOMEONE ELSE a chance to prove himself.
Here come the suckchez cheerleaders. One lies and the other swears to it in an attempt to create the illusion of consensus. But theyre not trolling...no......
Nevermind Rich Cimini @RichCimini 1m Rex says QB competition will continue through 3rd game. #Jets Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN 5m Rex on Sanchez INT: "It looked like to me we were a little off." #nyj Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN 1m Rex on next week's starter: "We're not willing to name a starter" for that game. #nyj Rich Cimini @RichCimini 13m Geno Smith doesn't take one snap tonight and yet his chances of winning the job improved, thanks to 2 bad plays by Sanchez. #Jets
Hobbes, I have to address this. http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=2814846&postcount=679 "Playing against guys that will be bagging groceries in 2 weeks. Schocking. Lets recap. Simms went to 3 colleges, couldnt crack the depth chart...hmmm.. Could there be IQ issues? Sanchez put up a 99 QB rating last week, and what would have been 30 points, this week. His completion percentage was low...but...27 actual points wins most games" The first part is knocking Simms for looking good against, as you put it ""Playing against guys that will be bagging groceries in 2 weeks." And then you pat Sanchez for scoring "leading" the team to 17 3rd quarter points against those same guys "that will be bagging groceries in 2 weeks." Flipping hilarious how you play both sides of the fences on the same argument. Against the Jag's 1st team he managed 1 TD, 1 RZ interception and 1 RZ failure to score. In fact the only time the Jets put up a TD inside the RZ was when they DIDN'T let Sanchez do anything but hand off the ball inside the 20. Now Sanchez did what he SHOULD have done, he had 1 good drive in the first half, one good drive in the second half (well half a half). He basically doubled his yardage in the 3rd quarter playing against, again as you so eloquently put it when referring to Simms ""Playing against guys that will be bagging groceries in 2 weeks."
Please. Inconsistent is Sanchez's middle name. He's thrown how many picks in the last 2 years? How many in the last 4? Have those been fixed in the film room? No. Sanchez was solid in the first drive. Again had receivers running wide open and had all day to throw vs a putrid defense. The throws were good on that drive, but its not like he was making incredible throws that will instill confidence in most people. The rest of the game he was a non-factor except for when he decided to suck. His play in the redzone was so terrible that Marty didnt even have confidence in him throwing vs the 2nd/3rd stringers late in the game. As Ive said before, Sanchez did not take any grasp of the starting job. He just proved that he is still the inconsistent QB that we are used to. Stop making excuses for the guy.
I'll be far more forgiving and give a 5.5 if 10 is elite and 0 is tebow the other day. Sanchez is Sanchez, the game he played was very, okay... his first pass in my opinion was his best if a little risky, a good throw to hill that seemed out of the range of a local defensemen coming in to make a grab. his first drive was good overall, his receivers got good and open and he could handle his own. the rest of the half was pretty mediocre, he missed a few open players at times, like when he got impatient on a potential throw to cumberland in the end zone (or never saw it) and went with a quick pass to hill that went way over his head. then there was his interception where there were other options but ultimately he probably went with the worse at the worse time (in the redzone) this offense has helped him out, but he's still making dumb mistakes and playing inconsistently. I feel better about him starting then during the offseason but he's just average at best. I don't think he's terrible, but he's not our franchise QB thats for sure. he's a stop gap at this point, a car that'll get you there if your new one needs time to be put together. I'm comfortable with him as a temporary measure or backup though. he's not crapping the bed like last year, but he's no stud either.
Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN 46s Rex if comp would have cont into 3rd ps gm regardless of Sanchez play: "It doesn't matter if we would have or wouldn't have at this point."
Take aways...I'm exceptionally disappointed in Nacho. He just can't get it together, mentally, for a whole game. Simms arm strength is flat out IMPRESSIVE. I actually couldn't see the ball on 3 or 4 of his throws...and that's saying something! I can track Nacho's throws from start to finish. If Simms can stick on a practice squad somewhere and continue to learn the game...he might do somebody some good somewhere. What I did notice is the receivers, even the 3's - 5's, catch the ball a ton better when the ball is humming to them. Did anyone else notice that? Maybe just me...maybe just the depth players making it look good. Not a good night for Nacho...I'd rate his performance a 4.5 out of 10. He has GOT to mentally keep his ass in the game after a mistake. He looked pretty good right up to that interception...then he looked like dog shit the rest of the way. Tentative and unsure. THAT is the difference between him and a gun slinger type QB. Gun slingers forget the last mistake...Nacho doesn't seem to be able to do that. I fear we are looking at our starting QB for the beginning of the season. Sucks to be us.
Funny how Mark throws an interception in the redzone during a game and its "looks like we are a little off", yet Geno throws a a few picks in practice and its a "brutal" day. And how about last week from Rex to the media- "a turnover in the redzone is worth twice as much as a turnover anywhere else. it kills you." Nothing of such words when Mark does it during a game. Smh.
how do you know that was the reason as to why he threw little to nothing after the 2nd q in the RZ?????
The Jets should be spending the next two weeks getting either Geno or McElroy ready to start the opener. Simms should be the 3rd QB. Sanchez should be cut tomorrow. 5th year, very little progress, still does not have the mind of a QB.
Their credibility has been so badly damaged that I really don't mind them anymore. At this point, I actually find it amusing to quarrel with the delusional, Sanchez-loving trouser stains on this board. It's fun to see how twisted and preposterous they are willing to let their arguments become in order to defend such an indefensible player. The abject worthlessness of their positions has been exposed time and time again, both by retorts from other posters on this message board as well as by the recurring failings of their hero, himself.
because they were. Heck, w/e his face over at ESPN pointed out it was the receivers fault. Rex is right and that they were "a little off." People are seriously forgetting this is PRESEASON. This happens and hopefully come regular season, all will be on the same page.
You think it was just some wild coincidence? That they just needed to practice running the ball with their 4th string RB and backup OL?
To be honest...I think he feels he can call Geno to the mat because he knows he can handle it. Poor Nacho has a single interception and he lets his game go to shit. If Rex called him to the mat you'd probably find him in a reenactment of the bathroom scene in the "Crying Game." Nacho is too mentally fragile to be called "brutal" in the press.
I would love to believe the bolded . . . but I just can't help but feel that Rex has a certain, almost insurmountable, infatuation with Mark. I think he is having trouble letting go of the idea that Mark is the quarterback of the Jets future. This is pure speculation, but I suspect that Rex fears that if he let's Mark go, it will somehow invalidate the success Rex and Mark had together in 2009/2010. Furthermore, I think he doesn't want to have to admit, either subconsciously or consciously, that drafting Mark hasn't worked out and that all of that excitement over "Sanchize" and the Jets promising future was probably for nothing. I also think this psychological phenomena could possibly explain, at least in part, the people who are still adamantly defending Sanchez on this board.
Hobbes keeps throwing out the 99.8 passer rating last week but won't say shit about his 76.2 rating this week
The Jets are doing a really good job of not coddling Geno Smith or handing him anything on a platter. That's the one saving grace of having La Maquina de la Interceptacion (tm 227) on the roster at this point. Geno knows he has to win the job if he wants to start the season. Otherwise he's getting in somewhere down the road to the biggest cheer that a rookie QB has ever gotten as he enters the game.
