Lots of QB's would be doing well with that 2010 team. Let's face it those teams in Sanchez's first two years were absolutely STACKED with talent around Sanchez. 3 Excellent WR's in Braylon, Tone and Cotch and most importantly a devastating OL. It is completely unreasonable to have to put that much talent around that guy year after year. Were they expected to resign Braylon after he was asking for Tone money? Convince Woody not to retire or magically find a replacement player of his caliber? How about Faneca? I forgot that elite guards are found on the corner of the street every offseason.
It would be worth it to take the hit for most of his money this year. Sanchez would be too much of a distraction, and we need everybody to support Geno as the starter (if he wins the job) Sanchez would want to start and rightfully so. It would create a potential toxic environment and we all know the media would love a "QB controversy".
Braylon and Cotchery were excellent WRs for the Jets, but do you see those two starting elsewhere right now? If they were excellent you would see teams lining up to sign them
then why did supposed much better QBs w/ better talent around them not have the same success? Remember, we didn't have Holmes in 2009, Cotch was really never full healthy in 2010. We got Braylon 4 games into 2009 and we were 3-1 w/ Chansi Stuckey as a starting WR. In 2010 Holmes only played 12 games, Cotch missed games and was never truly healthy. Our run game was up and down, Wayne Hunter was starting a bunch of games and 2 of the 3 postseason games- people forget this stuff.
So what you're saying is that a qb can't be more talented than Sanchez if they don't make back to back conference championship games? Interesting.
how else am i supposed to interpret the bold? based on that comment, you're saying that Sanchez took a team with worst talent further than QB's that are "supposedly better" than Sanchez to back to back AFC championship game appearances. If my assumption is wrong then "correct me"
the post was made that many QBs would have done as well, I simply pointed out a fact that there are many that have had more talent and failed to do as much, I also pointed out a fact that we had a HOF QB in 2008 and couldn't even make the playoffs.
So what does that come back around to? That basically in your mind Sanchez can't be that much worse than these "supposed better QB's" since he took the Jets to 2 AFC Championship games? Am I right?
More talent is an impossible statement to prove. It is a team game and no other team had the exact same players on offense, defense and special teams and played the same opponents we did in the playoffs. We can look at what Sanchez did in those games which was very little. it is very reasonable statement to say that many other QBs could have done the same. It has also been explained to you many times why we couldn't make the playoffs with a HOF QB, but keep making up the excuses for Sanchez.
Well Im going to go out on a limb here and say that a large part of our success was due to our defense and special teams... Crazy concept, right? Our offense was never great. It wasnt even consistently good. At its best, it was average. You go back to 2010, probably the best offensive season we have had when Sanchez was here and we were 4th in rushing and 22nd in passing. 11th overall... Clearly our success in 2009 and 2010, were not because of our passing game. It was because of our top 5 defense, run game, OL and ST's. And that 3-1 start in 2009 was against 2 below average teams, and the Patriots, where Tom Brady had one of his worst games in the last four years (why? because of our defense). Sanchez played solid that day, but let not make it like our defense was absolutely great then. It comes down to this... At this point, right now, it seems like the Jets are getting behind Geno Smith. Whether he starts this week 1 or sits and learns, its pretty apparent the NY Jets are placing their future in his hands. Not Mark Sanchez's... Sanchez has progressively gotten worse, and its clear that his days here are numbered. Who cares if I believe Sanchez sucks, or anyone here, its clear that the organization believes Sanchez isnt the answer. Time to move on.
And he did it with a rookie head coach and a suspect defense. Fact...Tom Brady never even accomplished that.
No. The point to take from that, is how bad Schotty sucks. Taking an injured Favre to Seattle, with a dominating run game,and abandoning it in the snow against an undersized defense.
Sanchez was the worst QB in football last year and one of the 5 worst over the past 4 seasons. there is almost no one who didnt have the same success or more. up and down run game? we were top 3 in 09 and 10. our defense was lights out as well. sanchez had nothing to do with us making the playoffs those seasons. he almost cost us a shot at them, in fact.
I'll take mark sanchez in January over many supposed better QBs, this game isn't just about fantasy #s. He did much more than you guys give him credit for but I understand b/c it isn't all in the boxscore so it could be confusing. You can explain it all you want but we had no Tom Brady to worry about against a sifter sched and still couldn't make the playoffs w/ the great Brett Favre. I don't care what the excuse is, he's an "ironman", that is his legacy. he plays he's evaluated on how he plays. You guys don't give mark any excuses for late in 2011 so why does Brett get one for late 2008?
Clear, in what way.did you hear Idzik say it? Or Rex? Or are you mking things up? Nothing about the QB position on this team is "clear" except the fact that it isnt clear.In fact the fact that they passed on Smith not once, but twice, with the QB needy Jills sitting ahead of them, says they had not decided to move on, and grabbed Smith as a value pick. Time to ease up on the hate. If Sanchez starts. And the Jets win more than 8 games, or god forbid make the playoffs, Smith doesnt get a sniff till year 3. Granted thats a big if...but that is a possibility. Vegas early has them at 7 wins...not a stretch, that with a better system, and a lucky break health wise with the defense....7 could be the floor, not the ceiling. And remember how the line works for Vegas..,half above, half below, make your money on the vig. So, Vegas thinks at least half the money comes from people,pundits,and prognosticators taking the Jets at .500 or better....
It was in reference to 2009/2010 not 2012. we weren't top 3 in '10, our D was not lights out in '10. Sanchez was vital to us winning 11 games and making the playoffs in 2010. The D and run games were up and down, the pass O rescued us numerous times throughout the year.
