a GREAT punt on second down in opposing field position. lol, you are just a green troll wearing Sanchez underoo's...
the message seems to get lost here. For the 1,000th time I am not commending him for the play, I am simply looking back at it and realizing it was like a great punt. AGAIN, I still prefer he makes the right read and we move the chains but looking back at it logically that play may have helped us in the long run and at the very least likely didn't hurt us. The unfair anti-Sanchez crowd harps on that play and ignores how he brought us back from 10 down to give us a lead which, as usual, our "great" D blew.
It's cool. alley, you're one of the only people that takes my shit with grace anymore. Don't think I don't appreciate it.
Maybe it was a planned interception? Since it equated to a GREAT punt, maybe they figured instead of trying to actually score they told Sanchez to lob one up to the defender.. it's difficult to punt from the 35. In which case Sanchez did a great job guys. Get off his back.
Great punts don't happen on second down. Any play which takes potential points off the board for us and adds potential point on the board for another team (especially one as potent as New England) is not a play that helps you in the long run. We lost. So, obviously, it didn't really help.
We lost b/c the D blew another late lead, he and the offense gave the defense a lead in the final minutes. They couldn't hold it. did it add pts for NE? No and there's a better chance that played saved us b/c NE wouldn't have been pinned at their 2 to start their next drive.
The D went into prevent defense, which always prevents you from winning (See Seattle at Atlanta). It didn't add points but it potentially could have. You don't know how a kickoff might go after we score. It could go on the 20. The punt returner could have fumbled and recovered at their own 2. We could have recovered at their 2. There's more than just them getting it at the 20. And anyways, I'd much rather have that outcome AFTER scoring points than hoping that New England doesn't score any points after we turn it over. Speaking of you blaming our defense, we only gave up 20 points to New England. This is usually a potent 30-35 point team, so it's not like our defense was shitting the bed.
You know what REALLY would've helped Junc? If the NY Jets were able to put points on the board in that situation.
yep, put pts up then give pts back and likely have the same point differential heading into the half w/ a great chance to be behind by even more making the comeback even less probable.
Steve young, in his first SIX years of pro football, threw more ints, than tds,, And barely averaged 55% completion rates, only eclipsing that mark once. Right coach, right system, different QB. Unless, you seriously mean to imply that Young, had Tampon Bay kept him, still would have won Super Bowls, and coasred into Canton. Coaching matters.
Oh cool, let me play too! Kurt Warner got drafted by Green Bay, a great offensive team, and they dumped him. He ended up playing for a fucking ARENA LEAGUE team, then he ended up playing backup to Trent Green, only after he stuck cans of dog food on a shelf. He was drafted by a great offensive team and they hated him. Yeah, he found the right offensive system. Only after certain life events happened. Comparing the lives of different people doesn't mean that the situations will mirror each other. Life experiences happened. Not just offensive systems. Mark Sanchez had some promise. He is also a playboy in the city of New York. Maybe he needs some humbling. Maybe he needs a new team. Maybe he needs surgery and half a year of recovery. In any event, we can't wait for him. This team needs to move forward. Not to wait.
I think Mark Sanchez is the worst veteran QB in the league and I want him off the team ASAP ... but I don't put the lion's share of the blame on him for that NE game. I thought he played well enough for us to win that day. Like I said to my friend immediately after the game ... when you fumble a kickoff inside your own 20 in a tie game with 2:00 left, that's not a game you're supposed to win. The fact that we found a way to give away that game is beyond belief. Everyone is responsible. With that said ... that particular pass was a disaster and should have been an easy TD, or at worst a 15 yard gain on the wide open check down to the RB in the right flat (Powell?). There's no defending an INT there. It wasn't like a "great" anything. It was a terrible pass by a terrible QB. Completely inexcusable. One of many plays we didn't make that day that added up to a heartbreaking loss.
you know, i just finished all my undergrad coursework and picked up my cap and gown, so ive gotten pretty drunk and just decided to slip away to check my comp for some reason but i really just dont understand how we are still arguing over whether or not sanchez can be a viable option for the jets at qb. i know you guys like to say his first two seasons were a fluke, but let me tell you, i was at that game in foxborough in 2011 (2010 playoffs) when the jets came and smashed the pats in he playoffs and his performance in that game solidified his legacy in my eyes as a jets qb. that environment was HOSTILE. us jet fans were severely outnumbered yet as the game carried on mark and the offense just got sharper and the defense got more intense. soon i was overpowering an entire section just by myself chanting for the jets, enduring the beer, the hot dogs, the pop corn, everything you could possibly buy at the stadium was beig hurled at me until eventually some genius decided to punch me in the face right in front of security. mark has proven his stripes as a qb in this league and after only 2 down seasons, well, one really, 2011 wasnt so bad as far as his stats were concerned (what was he like top 5 red zone percentage?) and the fans are turning on him like he hasnt done shit for this franchise maybe im just letting my experience get in the way of being an objective fan, but the fact that we got an offensive guru like mornhinweg on board with sanchez as the defacto starter and most likely his personal project to prove his worth as an oc after climbing out of andy reids shadow; that leads me to believe that i am looking at this the right way in wanting to give mark a shot with a good coach and a healthy cast. the comptetition will either elevate his game or cause him to go into a shell and hell lose the job but why the fuck do jet fans have to keep insisting on how right they are that the teams current number one option at qb just sucks; despite two afccg appearances and a track record of performing in high pressure situations with the game on the line. im not saying that i agree with junc and hobbes completely on this issue either, mark has some serious steps to take in order to be considered a good qb in this league, but he has shown the ability to take those steps and deserves a shot to succeed in mornhinwegs system
All of his steps in the last two years have been backwards and you can start measuring that by his 24 turnovers in each of those two years. The defense doesn't throw intereceptions and they also don't fumble the ball...it seems junc and others just don't get that.
hold on a minute all of his steps have been backwards the last two years? are you really prepared to back that statement up? because he was top 5 in redzone percentage 2 seasons ago. thats not a regression by ANY means... the game only gets harder as you get closer to the goal line, and this guy was among the best in the league in finishing in this spot just two seasons ago when the weapons were healthy and competent. im not saying mark is the best qb in the league, but come on dude, that stat is not an easy one to attain. the kid has talent.
just some good pr but holmes giving a vote of confidence to sanchez yeh i know everyone here thinks holmes sucks, but any objective mind would say otherwise. anyway.... http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2013/05/santonio_holmes_says_he_thinks.html click it cause its one of the few news outlets that doesnt take every chance it gets to take shots at the jets.
You're wrong about all of his steps being backward the past two years. His early 2011 had promise. Even after he got crushed by Ngata in Baltimore. Bway said it best. http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=69636 But then the Jets met the Giants and Eagles, and he has been a broken man from then on. I think I even wrote an article about that Eagles game at some point.
