Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Ok, here's the list of WR's that were available in free agency at the top end:

    Mike Wallace (5 yrs/$60M)
    Greg Jennings (5 yrs/$47.5M)
    Danny Amendola (5 yrs/$31M)
    Wes Welker (2 yrs/$12M)
    Brandon Lloyd (unsigned)
    Darrius Heyward-Bey (unsigned)

    CB's on the market:

    Keenan Lewis (5 yrs/$26.3M)
    Chris Houston (5 yrs/$25M)*
    Sean Smith (3 yrs/$16.5M)
    Dunta Robinson (3 yrs/$15M)
    Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (2 yrs/$10M)
    Aqib Talib (1 yr/$5M)
    Antoine Cason (1 yr/$2M)
    Chris Gamble (unsigned)
    Brent Grimes (unsigned)
    DeAngelo Hall (unsigned)
    Quentin Jammer (unsigned)
    Nnamdi Asomugha (unsigned)
    Antoine Winfield (unsigned)
    Sheldon Brown (unsigned)

    * re-signed by former team after free agency started

    So even in a thin WR market you still had Wes Welker signing for less than he played for last year and on just a 2 year deal. Brandon Lloyd and Darrius Heyward-Bey remain unsigned after being cut by their previous teams in cap-related moves.

    In the CB's none of the free agents signed a big deal. The people who signed are getting a base cap allocation of about the 20th CB last year or a shade over $5M.

    In 2012 the top CB's on the market were Cortland Finnegan and Brandon Carr. They got $50M contracts averaging near $10M a year. Carlos Rogers got a deal worth $7.3M a year.

    In 2011 Asomugha landed a big deal from the Eagles, Cromartie got paid by the Jets and Johnathan Joseph got the big deal from the Texans.

    There's just no question that the CB pay scale is getting reset at this point.
     
  2. jdon

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    In honor of Al Davis' death----and Revis torn ACL.
     
  3. Hobbes3259

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    Which is why I pegged Revis at 8M.

    None of those guys are any where near Revis'planet, but....everyone of those deals averages at about 5M, and the rookie salary cap isnt going to help. (which is rhe biggest reason for downward price pressure) someone said a page back or so that it was the declining quality of players...not so its the cost benefit analysis of youth and speed, coupled with increasing pro readiness of college players versus older guys that got big money late.

    Revis, is about to become the first real example of the new pay paradigm.

    In his book published a couple years ago, Pat Kirwan made a point similar to yours, one page back about athletes ready to step roght in, though he was not talking about QBs specifically.

    More colleges are running pro type or spread offenses, the nfl is running more spread type offenses, particularly with 11 personell sets, and defenses have had to adjust accordingly, coupled with coaches foing pro than back to schools, like Carroll, and Saban, and its easy to see, that under the new CBA, third contract players will get cheaper, or retore.

    Check out NFL network in the morning and catch the amazing pile of 30 odd year old talent looking for work.


    Poor little Revis...hows he going to live under this involuntary servitude :rofl2:
     
  4. Br4d

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    The top of the CB pay scale right now is about $10M a year. I believe the highest annualized compensation this year is Finnegan at $14M including a $5M roster bonus that has to be paid because of dead money issues.

    One of the CB's who signed this year might have more money coming in because of a signing bonus but the compensation based just on this year caps at $14M or so and that's the big year in Finnegan's deal which averages $10M a year.
     
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    this thread will go boom come next season.
     
  6. alleycat9

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    that aso contract really skewed things pretty dramatically. its taken a few years for it to come back to normal.
     
  7. GRNYT

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    HOBBES praises and defends Mark Sanchez to the point of embarassment but knocks Darelle Revis every chance he gets

    yet he wonders why people laugh at him and take his football "knowledge" with a grain of salt
     
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    Great numbers but in all honesty if any CB deserves a big pay day its Revis
     
  9. Jet Pac

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    Anybody that still has faith in Sanchez... JUST LET GO.
     
  10. TNJet

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    Think we could hire Mike Rice to help get Sanchez ready for the season?
     
  11. Hobbes3259

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    Where have I knocked revis ?

    Its a universal truth he is the best player at his position, thats a knock?

    He also overvalues the worth of that positition, thats an observation.

    People should be laughing at your grasp of basic english....


    I guess if tou had something to offer besides personal attacks, you would have wowed us with your brilliance, instead of chiming in with your bullshit.

    Moron.
     
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  12. Testaverde

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    Words of wisdom right there. ^ Wasteaverde, Laxative, Moron, Revis butt buddy. Any of that ring a bell? :rofl: Now I know the reason you call names is because you know you have nothing to offer.
     
  13. Jake

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    Nobody gets more butthurt after hearing a conflicting opinion than Hobbes. Its as if insulting Sanchez actually hurts his feelings. Then he'll label you childish and follow that up with some weak ass childish chirp.... Cooool maaan.
     
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    My money is on McElroy! You can quote me on that! McElroy! Yeah, I said it! I want McElroy! And a good OLINE, LOL!
     
  15. TNJet

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    Mike Rice should be Sanchez's personal trainer. He would get better or quit. I would take the latter.
     
  16. GRNYT

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    well Rice does need a job...
     
  17. Br4d

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    Because he just had a great season where he re-established his value as the best CB in the NFL and in the process led the Jets to a lot of wins and a playoff birth?

    Revis deserves the opportunity to re-establish his value at this point. Right now he isn't worth $10M a year, let alone some record-setting deal.
     
  18. Jet Pac

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    I thought this was the Sanchez thread..
     
  19. BomberJet

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    Yeah, a bit merged with the Revis issue :p

    Ok, lets get back on topic......I really truly believe Sanchez will have a super comeback year in 2013. You read it here first, or second, or third....... :)
     
  20. ArmandJ

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    Hobbes and nyjunc already have you beat.
     
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