Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. Biggs

    Biggs Well-Known Member

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    Today Sanchez is the only viable QB on the roster to start opening day. Based on that fact what Morningwig says positive about Sanchez doesn't mean anything. He can't say anything else until other options are actual on the roster.
     
  2. GSourJr

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    Assuming Jets can drag in one or two professional receivers to augment Kerley and Hill, Sanchez will bounce back.

    Mark did a great job making chicken salad out of chicken sh*t the early part of the season:

    -Great opener vs. Buffalo
    -Was playing well in Pittsburgh until his head got sideswapped late in the first hall; I believe he was concussed and that was the place for Ryan to bring in Tebow, at least for a few series, to give him a chance to clear his head
    -Struggled vs. Miami but ultimately make another 4th Qtr comeback against a team that was a lot better defensively than we realized at that time
    -Played very well vs. Pats in NE, undone by drops and chickenshit coaching

    Late in the season, I agree Mark gave in to the situation too much and really stopped making good decisions. Should've been benched for his and team's own good, but didn't agree it should be a career thing...

    Ryan really didn't do him any favors playing the last few games when it was clear that the squad assembled would not allow him to succeed.

    Sanchez will bounce back if he gets any kind of help from the GM and Morninwhig's offense
     
  3. ArmandJ

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    He'll get booed out of our stadium if he turns the ball over. Most fans have little patience for him, I presume.
     
  4. Br4d

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    MM shouldn't be talking about the QB position at this point. It's a bleeding issue for many of the fans.

    If he goes into camp with the guys he has then he has to talk about them to some extent but rubbing the possibility of Sanchez starting next year into the fans eyes at this point is just a bad piece of business. It accomplishes nothing constructive and further exacerbates the situation that many fans find themselves in of fervently hoping that Sanchez is gone by the start of camp.

    If MM has to talk about the QB situation it would be better to do it in generalities without creating tension around the Sanchez issue.
     
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    Denial about what? If we had a viable option to take his place, he would have never made it as far as he did last year. If Tanny didn't sign him to a retarded extension, he would be traded, or cut this year. JMO.
     
  6. Br4d

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    Bounce back to what?

    Give me an idea of what numbers you believe Sanchez will put up there if he "bounces back"?

    Chan Gailey was the guy responsible for the good opening day game. If you put no pressure on the QB then the odds are he'll have a good day, which Sanchez did.

    Leave it up to the Steelers to solve the Sanchez conundrum: put a lick on him and he's done for the day. That's what happened and that's how it worked.

    The Fins kicker made Sanchez a better QB - go figure.

    This one I'm going to give you with the proviso that two good games in seven starts is why the Jets went out 3-4 last year.

    This is all you needed to say here. 4th year QB needs to be benched at the end of the season. The next move is almost always out of town, as it would have been this year without the guaranteed deal.

    Again I have to ask you: what does a Sanchez bounce back look like because I haven't seen more than a dozen games in his career so far that I consider to be really effective/not hiding the QB good. That's not enough to make me care if Sanchez bounces back or not.

    I need to see him be flat out good in 75% of his games before I think he'll be an asset to the Jets moving forward and I make that possibility as almost non-existent.
     
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  7. JETS2013

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    My reason for writing Sanchez off is because I believe we seen him at his peak already. He can't give us better then what he's already shown us.
     
  8. Br4d

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    His peak has to be on a completely different plane that what he's shown so far for him to be of value in the Super Bowl conversation. His peak could be much better than what we've seen so far and it would be completely irrelevant anyway.

    Super Bowls are being won by great QB's year after year now. If Sanchez doesn't have greatness in him it's time for the Jets to go looking for somebody who does.

    My biggest fear with Sanchez is not that we keep him and fail next year. My biggest fear is that we keep him and he improves just enough to hold onto the job without ever getting anywhere near the level the Jets need to actually win a Super Bowl.
     
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    Good post, Brad. I understand the point that Winston is making, which is basically what else could he say. The right answer is he didn't have to say anything.
     
  10. Sweet P

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    Isn't it sad that this is what we're talking about and the fans in seattle are talking about their new elite receiver they just locked up in Harvin. Thanks mr.T. Hopefully our new guy from seattle can get us in a position to be excited in the near future as well.
    Sanchez is done by the way.....I want someone new under center come opening day. I believe that will happen. I don't want to see this guy back in unless our starter and backup go down.....Wishful thinking.
     
  11. ajax

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    Actually that elite WR that Seattle locked up is very good news for Jets fans. Seahawks finished only half game back in 2nd place & added a very dangerous WR. We all know from watching the Jets, the road to SB is MUCH harder when you start from Wild Card. I'm sure the Niners are thinking about that same thing right now also.

    If Niners acquire Revis, he can be the difference between playoff bye or finishing second place in NFC West.

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    Back to Sanchez:

    MM really doesn't have much choice here & just telling the media the orders/directions relayed down to him. Sanchez salary guarantees him a roster spot. Jets salary cap situation prevents them from bringing in solid alternatives. This draft is not looking so great when it comes to QB prospects & Jets need talent every where except LT, C, DL, CB & ILB (Assuming DeMario is ready to start).

    Sanchez is the opening day starter no matter how much we complain. Only thing Jets fans can hope for is that Sanchez gets pulled much earlier in the season if he repeats the same production.
     
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    Morhinweg says he has a leg up on all the other Jets QBs. no shit Marty! we haven't brought anybody new in.
     
  13. Sweet P

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    Point taken......makes perfect sense. Let's get some draft picks!
     
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    bouncing back would infer that he played good football at some point. when in fact he has been hot dog feces his entire career
     
  15. truthbtold

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    I don't think you necessarily need a great QB to win a Super Bowl. While I think both Flacco and Eli are good QB's, I would stop there. Give me a competent, in-your-face QB who can make smart decisions under fire, and a solid defense to back him up and I'll take my chances. Mark Sanchez is definitely not that guy and he never will be.

    All you need to do is look at that dying duck he threw up for grabs to start the AZ game, and it tells you everything you need to know. The guy just doesn't get it ... or maybe he does, but he just forgets it as soon as you put an ounce of pressure on him. Can't win with a guy like that. Those of you who think we can, are just fooling yourselves.

    Cue the Sanchez supporters to remind me how he "led" us to two AFCCG's.
     
  16. Big Blocker

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    Your point has some merit, but surely you would agree that the lower a Qb compares, the less likely a team saddled with that Qb is to win the big one.

    As a practical matter, I don't see it likely that a team with worse than a middle pack Qb, around 15th or so, is a real prospect to win the SB these days.
     
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    The last time a great QB won a SB was 2010, since 2007 3 of the SB champs have won w/o a great QB- that's half. The previous 15 SB champs saw 13 of them with great QBs(only Bal '00 and TB '02 did not). 50% in recent years is much better than 14% the previous 15 years.
     
  18. Hobbes3259

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    Yeah. Focus on the leg up, not played at a high level,just needs to be consistent comment...
     
  19. Frenbar

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    Sanchez hasn't earned the right to do anything except get ridiculed. If Sanchez takes the field, he will play like dog shit, which he is. If anyone wants to bet money on this, and put it in escrow, I'm ready. Sanchez is a disgrace to the NFL and the Jets.
     
  20. Br4d

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    Flacco and Eli are both really big and can see over the trenches.

    Sanchez is a little dude and his coping abilities haven't gotten better over the last few years, they've deteriorated instead. There's a reason he gets so many passes deflected at the line and that he's throwing int's to defensive linemen.

    To play QB in the NFL you have to have a lot of things going for you and Sanchez just doesn't. He had nearly 10% of his throws deflected at the line in his last season at USC. That should have been a flashing red light for the Jets because it was only going to get worse at the NFL level.
     
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