Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    I think our defense was more the reason we went 11-5 than Sanchez.
     
  2. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Finally someone with a mind.

    Matt Cassell can't carry Sanchez jock, and the proof in the construct, is in the pudding.

    Cassell wins 11games in NE. Goes to KC and sucks.

    I would say the OC was the determining factor.

    Schotty, Sparano < MM.

    If you find an intriguing prospect after round 5 draft him. Otherwise, it's status quo.
     
  3. Hobbes3259

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    Bullshit. He made big time plays in big time spots.

    And let's face it....Pennington got better, when he went to Miami, when we grabbed Favruh.

    And Favre. Ame in and dictated what he would and would not do, to 8-3. Hurt his arm...tell me how Schotty called that Seattle game with he playoffs in the balance?
     
  4. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Beating the Patriots took an all-team effort. Offense, defense, special teams. You don't get to the AFCCG without 3 TDs from Mark Sanchez. Someone has got to throw the football. You don't get to 11 wins without Mark providing some entertaining late game comebacks.

    He was a piece of the puzzle, and did a decent job. That was the role, I thought he would have with this team
     
  5. Br4d

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    My numbers are strictly regular season after Dec 1st and I believe they are accurate. I didn't parse out cold weather games from warm weather games, I just gave us the count for all games after Dec 1st in the regular season.

    I'm guessing that by the numbers Sanchez is by far the worst QB to start games in December in each of the last 4 years.
     
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    Yeah I figured that out once I reread and saw you mentioned only regular season games in December.

    They are accurate based on the above.

    Yeah I don't really know if the cold weather theory holds up, the plays worse in December than other months can hold up I'm pretty sure but there are too many variables like location of game/domes/etc to label all December games, "cold" games
     
  7. Br4d

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    It could also be the schedule length. December is about the point the college season ends and waits for bowl games to start. Sanchez is just so bad after Dec 1st in the regular season that he gives the Jets no chance at this point.

    I wish it were different but it doesn't seem to be.
     
  8. displacedfan

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    That could be true, although you do factor in January play has risen the first two years and his worst December was after 2/3 years in the league, who knows. I think it just boils down to he is a streaky and inconsistent QB and coincidentally or not some of those terrible streaks have come in December
     
  9. TNJet

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    Ok Ok Can we just agree Sanchez sucks, it doesn't need to be rehashed. It is just understood. A universal truth if you will. Let's move on to a new QB.
     
  10. Hobbes3259

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    We can agree Sanchez sucks when you tell us how great Schotty is.
     
  11. wildaces

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    Just out of curiosity, what was the average starting field position? How many points were generated from special teams (including wildcat), and defense? How many yards did we rush for?
     
  12. MexicanJet

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    You became a fan last year, relax; because that's completely false. Our Defense (to me) is one of the reasons we didn't go to the super bowl. Our defense was part of the reason why SANCHEZ had to lead 4 fourth quarter comebacks that year, or we don't make the playoffs. He has regressed and looks terrible, but don't shy away from facts and be blind to what really happened.

    How easy we forget things.
     
  13. Jake

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    It's very polarizing how bad Sanchez has been at times in the reg season and how solid he was in the postseason, even in the losses.
     
  14. nyjunc

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    at Cincy 2009 WC game 21 degrees, wind chill 9 degrees
    at NE 2010 div rd 30 degrees, wind chill 19
    at Pitt 2010 Champ game, 17 degrees, wind Chill 5

    avg FP in all 3 games: 34.7

    pts generated from STs? None as far as STs scoring pts(outside of FGs- no returns) but they set up:

    all from NE:
    -missed fake punt at NE set us up in good FP but we still needed to go 37 yds in final minute.
    -recovered OS Kick set up final TD at NE but we were comfortbaly ahead which was why they had to kick an OS kick.

    pts generated from D? 2 pts on safety at Pitt. as far as setting up?

    Cincy: INT set Jets up at NYJ 43, Sanchez threw long TD to Keller on this drive
    NE: only had 1 TO, didn't lead to pts
    Pitt: safety got us ball back at NYJ 42, we scored TD on pass to Cotch.

    as far as WC, Brad Smith was hurt in the 2010 postseason. missed NE game, saw limited action in Pitt.

    at Cincy:
    Brad Smith 2 carries 4 yds
    at NE: DNP, we tried WC once after Harris INT and LT dropped ball setting up FG attempt which we missed.
    at Pitt: Nothing

    2 carries, 4 yds in 3 games
     
  15. laxin

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    Thats like saying since your professor isn't good, it gives you the right to fail the class.
     
  16. tank75

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    not really

    its like saying since you graduated from university of pheonix online, you might not be as well trained as somebody who graduated from harvard.
     
  17. truthbtold

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    Sir ... please.
    Matt Cassel's 2010 season with KC is world's ahead of anything we've ever seen from Sanchez ... and so is his 2008 season with NE. All you need to do is look at the numbers. He's played 5 full seasons, and two of them are better than any of Sanchez's 4 full seasons.

    At his worst, he's been no worse than what we've gotten from Sanchez, and at his best he's been better. Bring him in.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Cassel is nowhere near Sanchez, his 2010 season was made in a weak division. Once in postseason he was BRUTAL and got to play at HOME.

    He's also had Bowe and Charles, Sanchez has never had anything comparable to those 2.
     
  19. displacedfan

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    His 2010 season was very good and so was his 2008 season. Just like Sanchez, his best seasons are now 2-3 years behind him and he put up his worst season last year. No harm in bringing him in and seeing what he has left. Any QB we have is flawed (Sanchez, McElroy, Tebow) and any QB we are going to get are going to be flawed. No problem brining in a bunch of flawed QBs and seeing who learns the system the best.
     
  20. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I'm ok w/ Cassell as a backup but he's nowhere near as good as Mark Sanchez.
     
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