Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, the fans see that Sanchez is average at best and can't make players around him better. But the front office refuses to acknowledge this and try to do something about it. Get him some skill players that can make him look decent and I think the Jets can win with him as a result. 2010 is proof of that.
     
  2. alleycat9

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    hey guys who say tghat mark could be as good as alex smith.... yes i am talking to you.

    guess where he is right now? ON THE BENCH watching his backup win games.

    so you have said that mark sanchez possible upside is to become a backup qb. thats about right.
     
  3. NewEnglandJet

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    So true except Sanchez is less accurate and turns the ball infinitely more.
     
  4. The 1985er

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    and the 49ers have more talent
     
  5. displacedfan

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    Reggie Bush is a better weapon than Greene. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. Bush is a better runner and pass catcher and probably equal blocker to Greene. He is more explosiveness than Greene. His only downside is that you probably can't hand the ball off 30-40 times to him, but Greene has that downside also with his injuries and giving himself concussions

    And a better offensive head coach and Smith has been in the league twice as long.

    All in all, Sanchez sucks, but it's not like he's holding back a tremendous talent like McCoy in Philly or Larry in ARZ. We really don't have any playmakers or gamebreakers on offense.
     
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    Vernon Davis >>>>> Keller
    Gore >>>>>> Greene
     
  7. NewEnglandJet

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    Lack of talent doesn't justify his terrible decision making, ball security, and his inability to assign blitz pickup consistently.
     
  8. displacedfan

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    Nope, but it explains why the whole offense looks like a mess and not just the QB position.
     
  9. alleycat9

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    so now are we saying it makes sense for the niners to get rid of the guy that some of you have said is the ceiling for mark sanchez for a 2nd year qb out of a second tier college who was a pistol formation qb?

    what i am saying is that the niners realize that smith isnt any good and they arent going to waste their time with him. the jets have not yet figured it out... which speaks volumes to the sense in both organizations.
     
  10. NYJFan10

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    So who else lost in fantasy this week because of the ass fumble? I was top spot in the league and lost my game by less than eight points to the worst team in the league, and OF COURSE my opponent had the Pats D (as well as Brady), and the TD/fumble combo is eight points in our league.
     
  11. Swampdonkey

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    Yep. Smith had a better year last year than Sanchez has ever had and the niners couldn't wait to upgrade. Smith played in the NFC title game and was a muffed special teams play away from the Super Bowl and the niners still realized they needed to upgrade ASAP and have benched him. Rex grossman played in a Super Bowl and the bears dumped him quickly. Dilfer won a superbowl and the ravens couldn't get rid of him quick enough.

    Sanchez has been one of the worst qbs in the league since day one, was carried by his oline, running game and defense and still the team and certain fans look to make any excuse in the book to keep him. I've never seen a qb this bad, this long given so much leeway.
     
  12. truthbtold

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    AMEN. Thank you. All these members of the "no talent around him" chior just don't seem to get it.

    The main problem isn't his lack of production. The main problem is constantly giving the ball to the other team ... and all the talent in the world can't fix that for him. That's what you call a "me" problem.
     
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    The salary cap is irrelevant to this argument. The point is the investment. The Mets had an 80 million dollar investment in Bay, but eventually they realized there was no way to get a return on that investment so it was time to get out and lick their wounds ... and the Jets need to do the same with Sanchez. There is no hope of return on this investment. I'm not saying to cut him now ... but I don't need to see him start another game for this team.

    By now, it should be obvious to Woody that Sanchez can't start in this league ... just like Bay ... and unless he wants to absorb the losses associated with alienating 90% of his fan base, and playing in an empty stadium in 2013, he better swallow hard and cut bait.

    I never understood that argument about playing a guy because you're paying him anyway. It's a ridiculous argument. If you have to pay him anyway ... why pay him to cost you even more money? What kind of sense does that make? You're better off paying him not to play.
     
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  14. ArmandJ

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    Thumbs up to your post.

    Look at how college coaching searches are. If a coach is mediocre/bad while having a substantial amount of time on his contract, what do you do?

    Do you keep him until you can pay off his contract while alienating people who are sick of him?

    Do you fire him and take a gamble; showing that you are proactive and injecting some hope into your team?

    I may be biased, but I think the latter would be the more reasonable decision.
     
  15. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    so we are blaming the QB alone for the debacle the other night? shocking.
     
  16. NFLTime

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    I don't know what planet you are on if you still think Sanchez is a good Qb. He was never good, he had a few ok moments, but his body of work is terrible. Of course it's not all his fault, but he clearly is terrible. 2nd worse starter in the league. The sooner they realize this, just cut bait and move on, we can work on getting better. Sick of all the excuse making, time to face facts, we have a #5 overall pick bust on our hands.
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    he's stunk this year w/o a doubt but he has no help.

    Busts don't help teams reach back to back title games.

    You don't give up on a QB that has shown as much as Mark has, maybe you sit him down for a game? but we don't have a backup QB.
     
  18. Biggs

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    Unlike the 9ers the Jets don't have an athletic backup QB who can actually throw the football at an NFL level. Alex Smith sucks and took his team to the NFC finals last year. The Jets plain suck and collapsed last year and are showing why this year.

    The reason Sanchez who sucks needs to continue to start is he is the only QB on the Jets with NFL talent. It may well be backup talent but again we need to develop the raw but talented young WR on this team for the future. We can't develop them by running the wishbone, the wing T or the College option. Until we have an upgrade on the roster, Sanchez is the only option that the coaches have to develop the WR talent. He will continue to turn the ball over but he will also continue to run a pro offense.
     
  19. Ted

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    He's done in New York. That is a tough town to play in and once the fans get down on an athlete, it is virtually impossible to win them back. A-Rod is an excellent example of that and Sanchez is far worse as a QB then A-Rod was as a hitter.
     
  20. Biggs

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    Dick Todd was done in NY until Matt Robinson broke his thumb and Dick lead the team to the AFC finals while Matt proved he sucked all over the league.
     
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