Sanchez: 2nd Contract?

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Cman69, Jan 3, 2012.

?

Has Sanchez's play earned consideration for a 2nd contract?

  1. Absolutely-His post season perfomances are proof enough

    8 vote(s)
    10.0%
  2. Absolutely-His biggest problem is the line he plays behind and the system he plays in.

    16 vote(s)
    20.0%
  3. No-He just hasn't evolved into an elite QB worthy of a top 5 pick.

    15 vote(s)
    18.8%
  4. No-Sanchez is what he is and we should try to upgrade if he doesn't show improvement.

    49 vote(s)
    61.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2003
    Messages:
    24,461
    Likes Received:
    862
    Also, the D scored or set up all 17 points prior to the final drive
     
  2. Jtuds

    Jtuds Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2004
    Messages:
    6,641
    Likes Received:
    1
    No chance in hell he gets another contract....people need to get their heads out of their asses.
     
  3. Organized Chaos

    Organized Chaos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2009
    Messages:
    2,551
    Likes Received:
    87
    The only reason to offer him a contract now is to try to lowball him into a contract that would be beneficial if he were good, but easy to get out of if he is bad.

    I don't think Sanchez or his agent will take anything like that. Hope springs eternal, and deep down inside Mark might be dying to get out from under Shotty and away from the clusterfuck of a revolving door at wide receiver.

    Pete Carroll is on the west coast near Mark's family...Sanchez could also probably start on 5 to 10 NFL teams over their penciled in 2012 starters.

    I think the best thing for both the team and for Sanchez is to play out next season and see what happens. We should bring in a viable backup in the offseason. If Sanchez has a better year, then we pay him and he deserves it. If he doesn't, then the organization weighs what is out there versus paying him.

    It's the same as the Cromardie/Asomungah situation in my mind. Cro might not have been the first choice, but he was the best choice after Aso and the other high profile corners were off the market.
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    "gassed"? come on. whatever the reasons they blew the 14 pt lead.

    stats lie sometimes, our D cost us more than the O this year especially since we are more reliant on the D.
     
  5. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    13,737
    Likes Received:
    595
    More than our O may be a stretch, but I agree they haven't played as well as everyone thinks.
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    Of our 8 losses:

    D primarily responsible for:

    Oak
    both NE games

    O primarily responsible for:

    Miami
    Baltimore


    shared:

    Den
    NYG
    Philly
     
  7. New England Patriots

    New England Patriots Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,041
    Likes Received:
    120
    You are less reliant on Sanchez, so it's less his fault? This isn't sound logic.

    Just because the defense was worse than expected, it doesn't mean your defense is more at fault than the offense. Especially when talking about where to spend your money in the offseason and in the future.
     
  8. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    13,737
    Likes Received:
    595
    One of the NE games I would disagree with because one game we either drove for a TD or had a 3 and out. That is unacceptable. Thankfully you put Denver was in both, I can't believe people have been killing Sanchez for that game but overlooking the D
     
  9. Jetrik

    Jetrik Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2004
    Messages:
    1,887
    Likes Received:
    143
    Too early to tell. The guy can go out and win the next two Super Bowls after this one. What then?
     
  10. Rawrk

    Rawrk New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2010
    Messages:
    698
    Likes Received:
    0
    no, no extension yet. i'm not interested in lowballing our qb. make him earn his next contract and pay him fair market value if he proves that he's capable of carrying this team.

    and please stop bringing up brees and eli in these conversations. they are very different qbs. their success has no bearing on mark sanchez. it would be like saying mcelroy has a chance to be great because tom brady has been successful.
     
  11. Chrebet86

    Chrebet86 Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2003
    Messages:
    2,609
    Likes Received:
    0
    He hasnt earned a new contract yet, but he will.
     
  12. bibigon

    bibigon Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2010
    Messages:
    203
    Likes Received:
    0
    Guys with numbers as good as Rivers don't get run out of town. Look at Romo - he plays in a bigger pressure cooker and insanity show than even the Jets, and yet he's clearly their franchise guy, no matter how often he comes up small in a big spot.

    Guys with passer ratings and yardage numbers like those guys don't get kicked out of the curb anywhere.
     
  13. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    Sure it does, our D was expected to be a legit top 5 D, it wasn't a top 10 D. That will throw a wrench into a season.

    at NE we scored to cut it to 6 w/ over 7 mins to play. Can the D get a stop? Nope, they allow NE to go on a 6 min drive and kick a FG to end the game.

    at home vs. NE we scored on the first play of the 4th qtr to cut it to 7. Can the D get a stop? Nope, they allowed NE to hold the ball for 7 mins and score a TD.

    That's b/c fans get duped by meaningless fantasy #s. I'd rather have a guy w/ lesser #s that coms through when it matters most than the opposite. There are many supposed top QBs that melt under playoff pressure unlike Sanchez.
     
  14. Testaverde

    Testaverde Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Messages:
    612
    Likes Received:
    30
    Winning the games you need in order to make the playoffs are just as important as playoff games. If you lose a playoff game, you go home. If you don't win the regular season games you need, you go home. Those last 3 games were just as important as playoff games.
     
  15. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    they were important but they weren't playoff games and we would have needed to score 50 to beat Philly. That tome was set by the D, the D played bettre the next 2 weekas but allowed 2 backbreakling drives- the first one wasn't a drive but the 99 yd TD. That was a soul crusher, the 2nd was the 94 yd drive to Matt Moore. Sanchez and the O needed to play better but we needed to in all phases.
     
  16. Testaverde

    Testaverde Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Messages:
    612
    Likes Received:
    30
    I don't understand your thinking. If you control your destiny with a few games to go, the playoffs start then. Failing in those games is exactly the same as failing in the playoffs. You end up in the same place when you lose. At home. The D deserves some blame, but the O put the D in bad spots all year. The Eagle game would have been totally different if not for the O putting us in a 7-0 hole to start the game. The D failed in big spots, but the O was worse.
     
    #56 Testaverde, Jan 3, 2012
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2012
  17. CurbYourEnthusiasm

    CurbYourEnthusiasm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2005
    Messages:
    3,113
    Likes Received:
    72
    Funny we say the same thing here about how the Pats will continue to not win anything with the worst D in the league.
     
  18. PatsFanTX

    PatsFanTX Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2005
    Messages:
    1,013
    Likes Received:
    0

    Funny how the worst two defenses in the NFL are the #1 seeds in each conference with a combined record of 28-4.
     
  19. CurbYourEnthusiasm

    CurbYourEnthusiasm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2005
    Messages:
    3,113
    Likes Received:
    72
    Let me get your opinion on something. Do you think Brady was responsible for the Pats winning games in their 1st SB run? Because his stats were worse than Sanchez, yet Brady gets all the credit in the world for winning that SB.

    No one said that Sanchez was the sole reason for the Jets success in those 4 wins, but if you think he wasn't a big part of it then you sir are delusional (spell check is your friend).

    He has the 4th highest QB rating in the history of the postseason. He completely outplayed Brady last year and helped the offense put up 28 points, tossing 3 touchdowns and a QB rating of 127+. He put the Jets in position to win against the Colts on the last drive of the game (similar to how Brady won the SB vs the Rams). He also played great against the Steelers, too bad our defense didn't show up that game.

    He also put up solid numbers vs the Bengals. The Charger game was his shit playoff game, yet put them ahead with a go ahead TD in the 4th quarter, before Greene put the game away.

    So going through all those games, to say he wasn't a part of the Jets postseason success those 2 years, is delusional. I agree most of the credit should go to the D, but the offense still has to put up points, which Sanchez had a hand in.
     
    #59 CurbYourEnthusiasm, Jan 3, 2012
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2012
  20. CurbYourEnthusiasm

    CurbYourEnthusiasm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2005
    Messages:
    3,113
    Likes Received:
    72
    Won't argue that. Pats fans said the same thing last year and got whooped in the playoffs as the 1/2 seed (forget which). The Pats had the lowest SOS this year, so I'll wait and see how they play against a legit offense.

    All year your D has been torched, yet you escape games by winning by less than a TD against bad teams. What happens when you play good teams with a solid defense and can't score 21+? (see Pitt, NYG)
     

Share This Page