San Antonio Church Attack

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  1. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Definetly , and those who profit off the gun industry really do t care if the guns are bought through black market means down the line . As long is it creates a demand for production. And the black market is a pretty propped market regardless of how much they claim to support crackdowns
     
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  2. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    LOL No it doesn't. There are some stabbings, but not mass stabbings like this. And if you are going to post like the one incident from years ago, I'll just post a crap ton of shootings in America this year.

    There are websites tracking the smaller shootings too. But you don't see people shooting up block parties or such in Australia. You don't see people shooting a 30 round magazine at their target and hitting 6 bystanders in England.
     
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    What law do you want to pass that would stop this?
     
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    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Again, the mass majority of gun violence in this country is not committed with guns that would be effected by gun laws . You base your opinions on emotion after isolated incidents, and ignore the fact that they are a drop in the pond compared to daily gun violence with black market guns.

    I've said it already, but I'm not against gun laws, would probably agree with anything you propose... i but I won't fool myself into thinking it would solve much
     
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  5. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    Isolated incidents? It's only Nov 5th and there were 7 shootings of 4 people or more. October saw 33. That's more than one per day. That's not isolated. That's a societal problem.
     
  6. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Numbers without context.
    List you 7 shootings and let’s see which ones were done with legally purchased guns that a new law would have stopped
     
  7. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    No more guns to private individuals.
    Buy backs.

    Take guns out of circulation with no new ones added and the rates of shootings plummet.
     
  8. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Smh . Great , now we can't protect ourselves against all the guns out there in the hands of criminals that are unregistered. Maybe think about what you said, and realize why it's the liberal cities that have the most problems

    This is a prime example why the electoral college is so important
     
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  9. FJF

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    so you want to do away with the 2nd amendment? and that will stop gun violence in america? disarm the law abiding and put people out of work?
     
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  10. Greenday4537

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    Remind me of all the mass shootings that were stopped by "good guy with gun"? Please, the VAST majority of gun owners have not and will never use a gun in self-defense.

    Hey, you said you'd tell me how new laws wouldn't stop gun crime so I presented you a law that would drastically reduce gun crime. The gun owning crowd as a whole has proven irresponsible with catastrophic results. Tons of people dying every year.
     
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    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Are you really this dense? Again, because you're not getting it. The mass majority of gun violence In the us is not committed by "responsible gun owners" . The bloods, crips, Latin kings, or whoever else do not go to the gun store dude. And we have had about 6-7 instances locally this year where a carrier fought off a criminal with their gun. Gun laws can only target people who are going on to legally buy a gun. Those people are NOT responsible for the numbers.
     
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    1. i said stop, not drastically reduce and it wouldn't even dent it. guns would still roll in with the coke and heroin across the open boarder to the ones committing most of the gun violence. you know, the ones you hear about sometimes on your local news when it is kind of close to home, the same ones that people don't even flinch when they hear the shots 3 blocks away because it has become part of the background noise of life. banning guns will be as successful as banning alcohol was. and you will have put countless americans out of work.

    the legal gun owners are no where near as irresponsible as the alcohol drinking crowd, the car driving crowd and the ones that like to do both. so if you are truly for saving lives,innocent lives,from people who had no ill intent just bad judgement, start the campaign to get ignition interlocks mandatory on all new vehicles, cars to be regulated to do no more than 65 mph, gps backed driving reports sent directly to the local police to do audits and mail out tickets based on the reports.
     
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    If this guy was dishonorably discharged , it's a felony so he could not have bought the gun
     
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    Ok, so this guy was dishonorably discharged from the armed forces, which means he owned the firearm illegally. As for the good guy with a gun stopping violence, that's exactly what happened today. Someone in the church reportedly grabbed a rifle and started shooting back.
     
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    yea but a new law would make guns really illegal. so there
     
  16. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Lol. Help me government. I need your guidance and hand holding
     
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    That's what the Brits and Aussies said too.

    Honestly, what's the point of arguing? When "Don't take muh guns!" is more important to you than schoolkids being shot up, there's nothing left to say. I can't argue against people who believe their right to own guns is more important than kids being shot.
     
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    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Are you saying that there should be stricter background checks and a limitation on what we can have...: common sense gun laws, or are you saying there should be a round up up fire arms and guns should be banned all together?
     
  20. Greenday4537

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    I mean, it's well establish America will never outright ban guns. People don't care if innocent people get murdered in mass shootings and politicians are paid too much money by the NRA and gun companies for that to ever happen.

    So it'd be nice if we could do the bare minimum to try to reduce insane people getting guns and shooting crowds up but every time someone tries to do such a thing, people cry they are having their rights infringed on and lobbyists throw money at politicians to push "hopes and prayers" bullshit over laws.
     

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