Our corners would look great too if they had a NE style of pass rush. So how about we spend the money where we need it on the DL and OLBs that can get to the QB.
What your saying means nothing. Nate clements went to san francisco last year.. San francisco.... Granted they were alot better then they are right now, but Sanfrancisco... Why you ask, because of the money ! He knows damn well 49ers were not contending for a championship anytime soon..
You're trying to make people eat words that they aren't saying, and that is a weak version of debate. Revis looks great so far for a rookie, he has taken more on his plate than most current pro-bowl corners were ever asked to do as a rookie. Does he make rookie mistakes? Yes he does, and of course we will suffer for them whenever they happen. But he has skills required to take the next step if he has the mental wherewithall to take that step. Now, tell me where anybody on this board, besides you, has mentioned how Revis is 'can't miss talent' or that he will be going to 'pro bowl after pro bowl'? Quote it, because it is obviously words that you think you're going to make people eat.
here is a sampling of your cant miss attitude abyzmul! by comparing a rookie to established nfl talent, and saying this is your reasoning.
asked to do more than who? sure he tackles alot, but isnt football a team game? my eating words comment was that i would not be going any where and i'll stand by what i say without backing away. was drafting revis worth moving up to get? its not justified yet, nor will it be if he does turn into a pro-bowler. our team needed other things more important than a DB, quote me on that!
trust me everyone quotes you on anything you say....you may go down in TGG history as the most pathetic and mindless trolls who never thought they were wrong... Revis is going to be a pro bowler....I would tell you to write that down, but I know you wont be here long enough to see it happen, as you inevitably get the boot...
what are you gonna do? have miamipuck tattle tale to a mod on me because i dont agree with optimistic posts? HEY EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!! GO VISIT THE BUNKER BY LOOKING INTO THE HISTORY OF PEOPLE'S POSTS. THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME HERE THAT CONTEMPLATE HAVING YOU BANNED BECAUSE THEY DONT AGREE WITH YOUR POSTS. SCIKOTICS, MIAMIPUKE, YISMAN SIT AROUND AND ENJOY THE IDEA OF HAVING OTHER'S BANNED. IS THIS WHAT THE JETS FORUM IS FOR, A SMALL GROUP WHO BELIEVES ALL OTHERS ARE STUPID, AND WANT ALL OTHERS REMOVED FOR HAVING DIFFERENT OPINIONS? NOT TO MENTION THEIR FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE AND CREDIBILITY. HOW CAN THEIR KNOWLEDGE BE SO GREAT IF THEY CANT SEE OTHER OPINIONS WITHOUT BEING OFFENDED TO THE POINT WERE THEY WANT YOU BANNED? THE DATE YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR IS IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. THE 19TH I BELIEVE, I'M NOT SURE. NYJUNC, I BELIEVE YOU WILL ALSO SEE YOU WERE A TARGET AS WELL. I DIDNT LOOK FOR ANY OTHERS.
oh my....I disagreed with you, get over it. Dont go postal on your way out...and for the record, there are alot of people on here that I, or anyone else doesnt agree with, but there isnt a problem with them is there? hmmmm..... btwfftopic: fftopic: fftopic:
you didnt just disagree, you and your buddies had me banned, and i'm not alone. this isnt good forum practice...you know? its just a matter of time till people outside your small group see that your opinions are completely biased toward your own. your credibility is shot, along with your view points. i guess you could say i'm tattling to the other members of this site what you are. they can decide for themselves. have a good day sir. i will put you on ignore.
if you want to rant, go back into the TT forum, unless you want to get the axe...you have completely hijacked this thread with you venting on how we got you banned...needless to say you did it on your own. oh yea, Revis will be a Pro-Bowler...
It's less what you think than a direct result of your below-average reading comprehension. You were comparing him to Bailey and Samuel so I incorporated your comparison. Who cares about quoting you? Nothing you say ever sounds even remotely intelligent or credible. Of course it's not justified, and anybody who is expecting the trade-up to be justified in his rookie year doesn't have any idea what they are talking about. And if you're really asking who I'm talking about in the comparison, then I was right on target talking about your reading comprehension. Aside from Bailey, who was a day-one starter (like Revis), the rest of the guys you are saying Revis can't be compared to never started as rookies. Samuel, the guy has been injured a lot of his young career, but he was a rookie his contributions were far less than Revis at this point. I remember you calling Al Harris a SHUTDOWN corner in the Terrell Owens thread. How did Harris' career start? He sat on the Bucs' practice squad his entire rookie year. Please, name some more 'shutdown corners' who contributed as much as Revis at this point in his career against the opposing teams' starting wideouts. And tell me you knew they were going to be that good because it's fun to laugh at you.
if revis continues to play and improve he wil be a shut down corner...you dont need 2 shut down corners when the team has the holes they have on the lines....Id much rather see them spend the money there......especially when you see the money O-lineman get these days you cant take yourself out of those sweepstakes for another corner......I would put this way down on the Jet priority list
1.the trade up to get him was stupid. 2.many on this site including yourself defend revis as though he is the second coming. 3.revis started because he was thrust in this by injuries to other DB's. dyson miller. 4.who cares how other Db's careers started, how does this move in to the arena for justification for drafting him? or starting revis? these are different scenarios with different results. these players above revis are established, revis is not. if you feel the need for research go do it youself, there have been plenty 1st year corners play to their expected draft ratings. revis is no god. nobody can predict how the future will pan out for any player, including mangini, who drafted a DB when we needed so much else. it seems your argument went well off target, go smoke another bong.
I agree, the way he has played this season with our lack of pass rush has shown that he can hang with the big boys....especially TO. What happens when he is put on Moss in 2 weeks should be interesting...but he should improve alot over the years and once this pass rush gets better, I hope we can see him play like the"shutdown" corner that we all thought he could be when we drafted him
1. You don't know that and neither does anyone else and trying to say you know it for a fact 3/4s through his rookie season proves how little you truly know about professional football. 2. Prove it in a quote that anyone calls him the second coming of anything... the more you post this worthless crap, the more desperate your argument seems. 3. Miller never showed he was anything and we probably would have had Poteat starting over him, like usual. Dyson has been swapping the second fiddle with Revis all season, and IMO not looking half as good. There is no point in number 3. 4. You should care since you're comparing him to all of those DBs. Either support your argument or continue looking the way you do: completely clueless. I'm not doing research to bust a flimsy and unsupported argument, if you want to tell people they don't know anything about football, at least prove that you do somehow besides just telling people they don't know anything about football. Your posts are unbelievably empty.
1. it doesnt take a genius to figure out after a 3-9 season up until now. which proves how much you know about football, we needed lines not DB's. 2. you seem to think he was the answer and reason for drafting him is better reasoning than mine, so he must be the second coming. 3.revis held out of camp,(a truly team like thing to do as a rookie) miller was uninjured and playing very well, and dyson was considered starter. revis was niether. go back and look at training camp. 4.i simply said he is no neon, bailey, or samuel. they are established and could play for many teams. revis is not of this calibur and may not pan out to be, and to consider him like these as of this point, is crazy. by saying he is, is even worse. there is my support and flimsy argument. show me obi wan, if you can? you must also live in the bunker?
1. Now we get to your real problem with Revis. Thank you for being terribly transparent. You are angry that they didn't spend the pick on a lineman rather than Revis so you aren't going to give him a chance, you are going to bash him for not being someone else at a diferent position. Good job. So much for knowing football, you can't even look at him objectively. The rest is a waste of time because now we know the real reason you don't like him so we know the rest of your argument is shabby window dressing. What a waste of time this is. And what a waste of time you are.
no we traded away extra picks to go get that guy, we couldnt live without. that 2nd and 5th might have produced other needs. since mangini is a DB genius, maybe he could have made one of the other DB's in our draft into what revis is. maybe revis wouldnt be doing as you say "so wonderful" if he played for someone else. all this is speculation. what is fact, is we didnt get to address our real needs,which are obviously not DB related. i never said revis was nothing, just not our team savior. so by not looking at him un- objectively, like you say, i lack football knowledge. hardly the case. it seems you think he was our correct pick, and answer to our needs then?
Just go ramble your unreadable drivel to someone else, and every time you expect a response from me, save yourself some waiting and just re-read the last 2 sentences in post #77 a few times and you'll know my position.
This doesn't even make sense. The Mods will not ban someone just because a poster asks them too. If your posts don't break forum rules, you won't get banned, no matter how many people ask the Mods. And the Mods will find offensive posts, whether posters bring it to their attention or not (if they are doing their jobs, which they are). There is no such thing as hiding posts on a message board, so the idea of snitching is moronic. Basically your argument is not that you didn't make posts which broke forum rules (bannable offenses) or that your posts didn't break any rules, but that you got caught? So you lash out at people that call you out for it, but you won't take responsibity for your own actions? How old are you? 4? Is this kindergaten?