Same old ARod

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  1. MSUJet85

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    I would love to see A Rod traded. He has never been clutch, for us!
     
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    Never, as in not one single time?
     
  4. BIG COUNTRY

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    He's been clutch for us maybe 5 times in the last 2.5 years, that's certainly not enough for the amount of money he's being paid. Id much rather have a player like Broscious for $3 million who hits around .290 with 18 homers however he comes through in big situations. Much better than someone like A-rod who boosts his stats in the 4th inning of a 12-0 game, and every 3 months will get 1 base hit after the 7th inning.
     
  5. nyjunc

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    Absolutely. Hayes & brosius specifically came through numerous times for us, boone obviously the one time but a full season i think he would have been ok. I am pissed at Boone for playing pickup basketball b/c if he doesn't get hurt we don't get ARod.

    You don't need All-Stars at every position. Going position by position you could say we were better the last few years than we were in the dynasty years but our parts fit back then and they don't now.
     
  6. AMJets

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    So you think that by replacing .320-48-130 with .260-15-60, we still win 95 games? It doesn't matter how "clutch" they are compared to A-Rod, you don't replace that kind of production and still win the same amount of games.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Considering most of those #s came in meaningless situations the answer is YES. We didn't need alot of his production, did we need his 2 run HR last night? Did we need him to go 3 for 5 w/ a HR, 3 RBI and 5 runs scored in the 19-8 win in Game 3 of the '04 ALCS? Take away his 5 runs scored and 3 RBi and we still have 11 runs. we need a guy that will come throuhg in a situation like sun Night or in a situation like game 5 in Anaheim but instead he grounds into DPs. The only times he won't K looking are the times he can ground into a DP.
     
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    You didn't answer the question that was asked. My question was, if you replace 125 runs scored, and .320-48-130, with 60 runs scored and .260-15-60, do the Yankees still win 95 games?
     
  9. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    But a guy who is dramatically worse then A-Rod over the course of an 162 game season is more likely to come through in a situation like this? How do you arrive at this conclusion?
     
  10. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    YES! most of ARod's #s are compiled in meaningless situations.

    it's not a guarantee but a guy like Brosius did it and if we didn't have a player who could do what Brosius did then at least we would not be counting on them to produce like we are w/ ARod. ARod not producing kills us, a melky Cabrera type not producing doesn't affect us as much.
     
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    Thank you. I think that's all anyone here needed to know about your argument.
     
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    So if the Yankees arent scoring as many runs, how are they winning as many games?
     
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    Ho ho ho, it's magic!
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    Never believe it's not so

    Seriously though, junc sometimes gets so crazy with his arguments that he doesn't realize what he says defies all laws.
     
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    The physics of it all just boggles my mind. You'd think that, as close as they are, some of Jeter's clutchness would fall off and stick to A-Hole's shoes; or, conversely, some of A-Hole's chokeness would waft-up into Jeter's nostrils and clog his clutchness organ.






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    so A-Rod was "not producing" last year yet he managed to win the AL MVP Award? that's a pretty neat trick. your "always fails in the clutch" claims are dubious enough, but to say that A-Rod didn't produce last year is pure fantasy.
     
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    Actually, I think this is really the problem with the A-Rod era yanks. Not so much that he's not clutch, but that he can't get Ortiz and Ramirez out with. Just like the rest of the pitching staff. They'd be much better with a lights out staff and some serviceable stiff at third who can make some plays and get a big hit every now and then.
     
  18. devilonthetownhallroof

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    I agree with junc here. Arod may hit 45 HR with 150 RBI, but if he hits 30, 100 of them in 15-4 games, who cares? At the end of the year he'll have the HR and 2 RBI added to his stats, but did they help the Yankees at all? If it's 10-3 Yankees and he hits a grand slam, and they win 14-3, do those numbers matter? THAT is why Ortiz should have been the MVP last year, because his numbers came when they mattered and were valuable to the team.
     
  19. MisterMoss

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    I'm with junc on this one to a degree. I'll take Brosius over A-Rod because he's more usefull in clutch situations, and we could reinvest that 20 million dollar gap in salaries into other pressing situations.
     
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    GO ROCKIES

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